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can you explain how it makes it more credible? is the assertion that asml is using mistral as part of its research/manufacturing?

by pm90 5mo ago

spiderfarmer 5mo ago
ASML knows like no other the importance of doing research in secrecy.
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SyneRyder 5mo ago
From the link: "...a long-term collaboration agreement to explore the use of AI models across ASML’s product portfolio as well as research, development and operations..." ASML is one of the clients Mistral keeps referencing, for example here: https://mistral.ai/news/forge https://mistral.ai/news/forge But it isn't clear exactly what they've been doing together. The Forge page only mentions they "train models on the proprietary data that powers their most complex systems and future-defining technologies."
john_strinlai 5mo ago
the assertion is that the people at asml are likely in a good position to assess ai use in complex industry
mtct88 5mo ago
ASML is one of the bigger investor of Mistral https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-ai-raises-1-7-b-to-accelerate-technological-progress-with-ai https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-ai-raises-1-7-b-to-accelerat...
yieldcrv 5mo ago
It doesn’t ASML’s EUV money printer has nothing to do with their ability to deploy that money in illiquid investments instead of to their own shareholders ASML buying equity in one company in tangentially related industry (just because they’re in Europe and the pickings are slim in both offerings and growth capital) has nothing to do with any synergy or integration with ASML’s utility (and bottleneck) to the chip supply chain remember when you were studying for standardized tests as a teenager? this is what the high scoring answer would be
- stingraycharles 5mo ago
  A friend of mine works for ASML and it’s suggested they were nudged quite heavily “from above” to make this investment, rather than it being an actual strategic play by ASML. Basically “sovereign EU AI” is the play here.
  - yieldcrv 5mo ago
    a cursory understanding of the subcontinent's abysmal venture capital ecosystem and bloc wide risk aversion would have anyone reach the same conclusion
    - sho_hn 5mo ago
      Right, because the US and Chinese governments don't do/encourage any strategic investments into critical technologies. Somehow people are only upset when Europeans dare to do the same.
      - yieldcrv 5mo ago
        Because the European ecosystem is a joke for reasons that are dumb and this is a symptom There’s nothing to say when the party does an investment thats their system they have total control in a state capitalist society that raised their population on marxism And the US ecosystem is diverse to have relevant purpose built vehicles doing private investments, in conjunction with various public market operations by the state
  - throw1234567891 5mo ago
    If your friend is working for ASML, they should not be telling you any of that.
    - petcat 5mo ago
      People on here just make stuff up

can you explain how it makes it more credible? is the assertion that asml is using mistral as part of its research/manufacturing?

by pm90 5mo ago

can you explain how it makes it more credible? is the assertion that asml is using mistral as part of its research/manufacturing?

spiderfarmer 5mo ago

ASML knows like no other the importance of doing research in secrecy.

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SyneRyder 5mo ago

From the link: "...a long-term collaboration agreement to explore the use of AI models across ASML’s product portfolio as well as research, development and operations..." ASML is one of the clients Mistral keeps referencing, for example here: https://mistral.ai/news/forge https://mistral.ai/news/forge But it isn't clear exactly what they've been doing together. The Forge page only mentions they "train models on the proprietary data that powers their most complex systems and future-defining technologies."

john_strinlai 5mo ago

the assertion is that the people at asml are likely in a good position to assess ai use in complex industry

mtct88 5mo ago

ASML is one of the bigger investor of Mistral https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-ai-raises-1-7-b-to-accelerate-technological-progress-with-ai https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-ai-raises-1-7-b-to-accelerat...

yieldcrv 5mo ago

It doesn’t ASML’s EUV money printer has nothing to do with their ability to deploy that money in illiquid investments instead of to their own shareholders ASML buying equity in one company in tangentially related industry (just because they’re in Europe and the pickings are slim in both offerings and growth capital) has nothing to do with any synergy or integration with ASML’s utility (and bottleneck) to the chip supply chain remember when you were studying for standardized tests as a teenager? this is what the high scoring answer would be

stingraycharles 5mo ago
A friend of mine works for ASML and it’s suggested they were nudged quite heavily “from above” to make this investment, rather than it being an actual strategic play by ASML. Basically “sovereign EU AI” is the play here.
- yieldcrv 5mo ago
  a cursory understanding of the subcontinent's abysmal venture capital ecosystem and bloc wide risk aversion would have anyone reach the same conclusion
  - sho_hn 5mo ago
    Right, because the US and Chinese governments don't do/encourage any strategic investments into critical technologies. Somehow people are only upset when Europeans dare to do the same.
    - yieldcrv 5mo ago
      Because the European ecosystem is a joke for reasons that are dumb and this is a symptom There’s nothing to say when the party does an investment thats their system they have total control in a state capitalist society that raised their population on marxism And the US ecosystem is diverse to have relevant purpose built vehicles doing private investments, in conjunction with various public market operations by the state
- throw1234567891 5mo ago
  If your friend is working for ASML, they should not be telling you any of that.
  - petcat 5mo ago
    People on here just make stuff up