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yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. There are several. They're in China, releasing competitive open-weight models on a regular
by CamperBob2 6mo ago
yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'.
There are several. They're in China, releasing competitive open-weight models on a regular basis.
- xp84 6mo agoAh yes, the famous altruistic China, no profit or geopolitical/national security motives, doing it all purely for the love of the game.
- CamperBob2 6mo agoWell, no, they're doing it to hose the US labs. But their releases have the effect of empowering individual users, which is a good bellwether of good-versus-evil in my book. We can only blame ourselves for everything that happens as a result. For instance, the effect of US government sanctions on high-performance GPUs has been to force Chinese researchers to do more with less. It will be years before they can bring their own fabs up to speed, but they now understand that a Manhattan Project level of effort is called for, and their AI labs aren't going to drag their feet in the meantime. This is how we ended up with a 27B model that can run with the big dogs from only one generation ago. I hope they keep releasing weights, but don't know how optimistic to be about that.
- signatoremo 6mo agoI thought "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product" is the most accepted wisdom on HN? At least when it comes to services from FB or Google. But if that comes from China they are the "good guys"?
- CamperBob2 6mo agoGood luck "productizing" a model running on the GPU in my basement with no Internet access. I wouldn't use them via a cloud provider, though.
- master-lincoln 6mo agoever heard of product placements?
- CamperBob2 6mo agoNot from an open-weight LLM, I haven't. In fact, even the paid models are product-agnostic to a fault when I'm looking for something specific.