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Trump literally said this about the CIA and Israel. It looks like you fell for it. Here's the real story with details on how they were able to fool you and the

by ipaddr 5mo ago

Trump literally said this about the CIA and Israel. It looks like you fell for it. Here's the real story with details on how they were able to fool you and the media you rely on. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-iran-misled-media-outlets/a-76396118 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-ir... You can't blindly accept everything being fed to you.

_DeadFred_ 5mo ago
The Islamic Republic government themselves stated over 3,000 deaths. Here are some of those killed/ These are all CIA agents? https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-rights-council-adopts-resolution-extending-mandates-fact-finding https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-righ...
- ipaddr 5mo ago
  Which nobody disagreed with. Where we disagreed was around women and children protesting and getting killed vs armed men with machine guns. You got tricked with AI photos and so did the media. My link shows how you guys got fooled and the technical details around that. Care to double down?
  - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
    According to the Iranian regime all killed were Iranian: "It described all those killed as “children of this soil” and affirmed President Masoud Pezeshkian’s commitment to protecting and vindicating their rights." And even the regime could only figure out how to label a subset of them as 'rioters and terrorists': "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." Leaving 2400 being random civilians. (if we believe the government list is actually a complete list). https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of-people-killed-in-early-January-riots https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of... You are incorrect. There are many women/children listed as killed while they were attending protests that Iran admits to having attacked and made games about on national TV: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-government-releases-list-of-names-and-state-tv-insults-those-killed/ https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... A small subset of those murdered by the Islamic Regime at protests: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... You realize that those dead people on the government list leave behind families/friends/social media profiles that all know/show they just wanted more freedom?
    - ipaddr 5mo ago
      There are confirming 6,000 and 146 under 18 according to your links. Which doesn't suggest families it suggests teens probably mostly teen boys. Again you are blindly using links without reading them or using critical thinking.
      - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
        The regime says "the total number of fatalities was 3,117". They then state "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." That leaves quite a few civilians murdered by the Iranian regime. 2,517. Murdered. Non-CIA. Non-rioters. Non-terrorists. Civilians. Murdered. By their own government. Here are the faces a few of the 2,517 the regime admits they murdered: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... here are the names of a few of the children that were murdered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... I do not claim either are exhaustive lists, they are simply a few of the many victims (2,517 according to the Iranian regimes official position). We haven't even talked about the 42,486 total arrests the regime made (which could not possibly all be CIA). 42,486 total arrests feels very secret police/repressive like the SAVAK of the 1950s. Your responses again and again aimed at me such as "using critical thinking." are in pretty severe violation of the HN guidelines. It's best to speak to what is being said, not to make malicious statements/judgements at those you disagree with.
        ipaddr 5mo ago
        Remember this link you gave: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... That's where we find the 146 out of 6,000. If you don't agree with those numbers you shouldn't be using that link to state the case that many families were killed. Now you start including random stats.. did you know there were 6 times more people arrested. BBC says x.. trying to change the goalposts by not even mentioning families killed which was the entire discussion. You got fooled by AI so did the media. Great writeup how they did it. No amount of changing goalposts will change that fact. How many fewer mother's day cards were sent or how many potholes Iran has now isn't going to change you got fooled by AI. We were see more of this in the future as AI bots will double down like you did when presented with facts.

by ipaddr 5mo ago

_DeadFred_ 5mo ago

The Islamic Republic government themselves stated over 3,000 deaths. Here are some of those killed/ These are all CIA agents? https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-rights-council-adopts-resolution-extending-mandates-fact-finding https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-righ...

ipaddr 5mo ago
Which nobody disagreed with. Where we disagreed was around women and children protesting and getting killed vs armed men with machine guns. You got tricked with AI photos and so did the media. My link shows how you guys got fooled and the technical details around that. Care to double down?
- _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
  According to the Iranian regime all killed were Iranian: "It described all those killed as “children of this soil” and affirmed President Masoud Pezeshkian’s commitment to protecting and vindicating their rights." And even the regime could only figure out how to label a subset of them as 'rioters and terrorists': "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." Leaving 2400 being random civilians. (if we believe the government list is actually a complete list). https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of-people-killed-in-early-January-riots https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of... You are incorrect. There are many women/children listed as killed while they were attending protests that Iran admits to having attacked and made games about on national TV: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-government-releases-list-of-names-and-state-tv-insults-those-killed/ https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... A small subset of those murdered by the Islamic Regime at protests: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... You realize that those dead people on the government list leave behind families/friends/social media profiles that all know/show they just wanted more freedom?
  - ipaddr 5mo ago
    There are confirming 6,000 and 146 under 18 according to your links. Which doesn't suggest families it suggests teens probably mostly teen boys. Again you are blindly using links without reading them or using critical thinking.
    - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
      The regime says "the total number of fatalities was 3,117". They then state "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." That leaves quite a few civilians murdered by the Iranian regime. 2,517. Murdered. Non-CIA. Non-rioters. Non-terrorists. Civilians. Murdered. By their own government. Here are the faces a few of the 2,517 the regime admits they murdered: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... here are the names of a few of the children that were murdered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... I do not claim either are exhaustive lists, they are simply a few of the many victims (2,517 according to the Iranian regimes official position). We haven't even talked about the 42,486 total arrests the regime made (which could not possibly all be CIA). 42,486 total arrests feels very secret police/repressive like the SAVAK of the 1950s. Your responses again and again aimed at me such as "using critical thinking." are in pretty severe violation of the HN guidelines. It's best to speak to what is being said, not to make malicious statements/judgements at those you disagree with.
      - ipaddr 5mo ago
        Remember this link you gave: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... That's where we find the 146 out of 6,000. If you don't agree with those numbers you shouldn't be using that link to state the case that many families were killed. Now you start including random stats.. did you know there were 6 times more people arrested. BBC says x.. trying to change the goalposts by not even mentioning families killed which was the entire discussion. You got fooled by AI so did the media. Great writeup how they did it. No amount of changing goalposts will change that fact. How many fewer mother's day cards were sent or how many potholes Iran has now isn't going to change you got fooled by AI. We were see more of this in the future as AI bots will double down like you did when presented with facts.