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I asked Gemini for a video of 'pelican riding a unicycle in hyde park' - I was blown away by the output: https://gemini.google.com/share/55e250c99693 https://g
by jimbobthemighty 4mo ago
I asked Gemini for a video of 'pelican riding a unicycle in hyde park' - I was blown away by the output:
https://gemini.google.com/share/55e250c99693 https://gemini.google.com/share/55e250c99693
- grey-area 4mo agoThat’s really impressive, and slightly worrying for creatives involved in film, animation or modelling.
- notachatbot123 4mo agoEven more worrying are the implications for fakenews, propaganda, fraud, deception and mental health.
- sevenzero 4mo agoThis is really my biggest worry when it gets to consumer AI. People already have a hard time informing themselves properly. Now we have technology that just boosts the already existing confirmation bias people have. It's sickening.
- dzhiurgis 4mo agoMaybe short term yes. But longer term people will finally put their guard up against deception that’s been around for decades.
- layer8 4mo agoPeople will still believe what they want to believe.
- tonyedgecombe 4mo agoIf they haven’t in the past I don’t see why they would now.
- dzhiurgis 4mo agoNext generation is healing already and staying away from social media, etc.
- viking123 4mo agoMy generation will be the new fox news boomers, but instead of Fox news it will be ChatGPT and Claude telling them that Israel is the greatest country in the world and if you disagree you must be an antisemite.
- dzhiurgis 4mo agoMaybe thats just your bubble. People I know are back to books and encyclopedias.
- KoolKat23 4mo agoAt that point their ground truth is completely skewed (already for some folk), everything is relative. Some of them will probably die off in self-induced Darwin award winning ways, but sadly certain skewed world views may persist.
- eloisant 4mo agoCounter-point, real incriminating videos will be easy to dismiss. "No that's not me, that's AI"
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- alpaca128 4mo agoThat's not how the human mind works. People still get skewed views on body standards even when they know that what they are looking at is biased and/or photoshopped, for example. When an AI fake stirs emotions just right, half the people will not even care about the truth.
- sofixa 4mo agoNo, it will just become like in the Soviet system - people will not believe anything anymore, and become disillusioned and just not care about anything other than their immediate surroundings. That's what being innundated with fake/exaggerated information results in. People don't know what to believe because they're seeing/hearing everything, and bits will be retained, but in general there will be a "this is too much, I can't keep up, who even knows, shrug".
- drdaeman 4mo agoIt’s the opposite, non-creatives (if such roles even exist in those industries) should be worried. All those models offset technical skills, allowing to get from idea to implementation through a different route (which can be easier or harder depending on idea and model - good luck tweaking that pelican’s exact pose and movements to match your imagination precisely). Nothing touches creativity, not even in the slightest. But there’s a lot of panicking, fear-mongering and all sorts of nonsense around this whole subject.
- colinb 4mo agoThe truly excellent weavers will be fine?
- Retric 4mo agoMy mother has started watching 100% AI generated stories on YouTube. They are good enough to be entertaining even if they include random errors like messing up the main character’s name. The thing is the creative economy is all about people’s attention and pocketbooks, it doesn’t need to be great just good enough.
- floren 4mo ago> My mother has started watching 100% AI generated stories on YouTube. God, I'm sorry
- grey-area 4mo agoDeeply troubling for so many reasons. Please try to get her to stop.
- abc123abc123 4mo agoWhat's the problem? If I enjoy some show, material or text, if it brings me value or a brief moment of happiness, I could care less if it was made by an AI or a human. This racism against AI-generated stuff has to stop. If not, we'll have a butlerian jihad on our hands that will set back prosperity, development and science for decades, perhaps centuries. People mention the artists... ohh, boohoo... either do it on your free time, improve your performance and selling skills or move to another job. It's not my job to slave away only so that artists can day dream and produce stuff that no one cares about.
- AussieWog93 4mo agoI wouldn't be that concerned that animation is going anywhere. Both outputs look really off, especially around the feet.
- grey-area 4mo agoYes sure if you look closely it’s slop, but a huge number of companies and advertisers just don’t care (and they feel the same about their social media content, blogs and yes code) - they will attempt to cut corners where they can to the detriment of true artists. But yes, for anyone who does this for a living there will be obvious deficiencies, esp when you try to do something truly novel, intentional and interesting and don’t quite want what it produces. But in this area they have made quite a lot of progress.
- wongarsu 4mo agoIn a serious creative tool you would also want a lot more creative input. At a minimum the ability to steer the animation with skeletons that feed into a control net, or something like that. And the ability to control the look and feel and create much more consistent characters. Both things that exist in good tooling, but both things that create work that will keep animators employed. But it will dramatically reduce the number of animators needed to reach a given level of "good enough". And looking at the trajectory of the animation industry, I don't think increases in productivity will be used to raise the quality of the animation if the alternative is to just pay fewer animators
- hackable_sand 4mo agoIt's really not
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- sfdlkj3jk342a 4mo agoI'm surprised by Grok as well: https://grok.com/imagine/post/8d1eab88-737f-4d46-ba92-9b6502f61d1b https://grok.com/imagine/post/8d1eab88-737f-4d46-ba92-9b6502... Interesting that it does better at making the pelican peddle in the video generation than in image generation.
- ionwake 4mo agoonly SVG counts tho, dont know why
- falcor84 4mo agoWillison chose this task because (unlike actual images of pelicans) is was clearly not in training data, but could be reasoned about and composed from what's there. But just like those "how many golf balls can you fit in a 747?" interview questions, it should now be retired.
- ionwake 4mo agoThank you for the reply. Would something like a Squirrel flying a hangglider as an SVG be a good new test? Or would that be indirectly in the training data too?
- simonw 4mo agoIt's a test of text-based LLMs to see how good they are at SVG geometry. Video models are a different category of software entirely.
- IdiotSavage 4mo agoGraphically perfect, but content-wise nonsense. The pelican's center of gravity is clearly behind the wheel. It needs to be above or very slightly ahead of the wheel.
- mycall 4mo agoI do hope that JEPA can help resolve the nonsense from AI models.
- ciberado 4mo agoStill impressed. And, to be honest, I don't think that this problem matter much. Physical accuracy is very nice, but for example is not the most important aspect when I watch a fantasy movie. Or even a scifi one.
- horsawlarway 4mo agoI don't think it's graphically perfect either. The length of the pedals keeps changing, and you'll notice that neither of the pedals actually rotates around the hub: consistent with your point about the center of gravity being too far back, the circle the pedals are making is also shifted back too far.
- navane 4mo agoOh those pedals go all over the place indeed
- djeastm 4mo agoMaybe the pelican has something heavy in its mouth.
- swed420 4mo agoAccording to OP: > Why this test? Because pelicans are hard to draw, bicycles are hard to draw, pelicans can’t ride bicycles... and there’s zero chance any AI lab would train a model for such a ridiculous task. At this juncture I'm left wondering why competing AI labs wouldn't train for this now well known "test".
- nijave 4mo agoGiven their proclivity to scrape the entire contents of the internet, it's only a matter of time intentional or otherwise. I've heard the same has happened with common benchmarks (they've ingested solutions into training data)
- nijave 4mo agoGoogle/Gemini has pretty impressive audio visual capabilities. I tried to have Claude add mulch to a landscape picture and it looked like someone hit it with the orange spray paint tool in MS Paint. Nano Banana actually produced something fairly realistic