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> Google released the Gemma 4 series of models, which are the most capable open weight models I’ve seen from a US company. Implying another country has a bette
by ramon156 5mo ago
> Google released the Gemma 4 series of models, which are the most capable open weight models I’ve seen from a US company.
Implying another country has a better model? I'm being pokey here because I'm very curious! I know Gemma is efficient, but I also remember Qwen and Kiwi being referred to as optimized. The difference being that Gemma is using less tokens, but maybe Qwen/Kiwi's quality is higher? I dont know.
- pferdone 5mo agoThe consensus right now is that Qwen3.6 in its 27B and 35B-A3B versions is better for coding whereas Gemma4 is stronger when it comes to OCR, audio transcription and the likes. Margins are slim though and the harness at these model sizes is the most important factor.
- 0xCMP 5mo agoIn my experience the qwen models are best locally, but gemma ones have always been good. gemma4 is a notable improvement.