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Corrupt government officials use this data to kidnap people. Not criminals, just people they don't like. Do you really think that's worth tolerating just beca
by __MatrixMan__ 5mo ago
Corrupt government officials use this data to kidnap people. Not criminals, just people they don't like. Do you really think that's worth tolerating just because it'll help us catch more actual criminals?
- Dibby053 5mo agoHelping solve kidnapping cases is a direct and straightforward application of vehicle intelligence data.
- __MatrixMan__ 5mo agoEnabling state sponsored kidnapping is also a direct and straightforward application of vehicle intelligence data. We should only allow its use if the cases solved is likely more than the cases caused.
- charcircuit 5mo agoYes, I think it's worth tolerating and I think all queries should be logged and monitored for abuse. Kidnapping already is not legal to do.
- righthand 5mo agoBut if persons in power are already not being held accountable, what the heck is a log file going to do?
- charcircuit 5mo agoIf people in power can freely get away with kidnapping than there are bigger problems to fix to restore law and order.
- _factor 5mo agoAnd giving those same people more power makes it more difficult to fix the core problems.
- charcircuit 5mo agoIt doesn't. It's just as easy / hard to vote such a person out.
- __MatrixMan__ 5mo agoThe people they're having abducted are the people that speak out about their misbehavior. Enabling those abductions very directly makes it harder to vote them out.
- righthand 5mo agoExactly my point and you’re describing giving those people more power and suggesting an unenforced audit log is all we need to keep check.
- charcircuit 5mo agoI never suggested an inenforced audit log.
- righthand 5mo agoWho enforces checking the log for overreach then? The cops/pols that can’t be trusted to use it?
- __MatrixMan__ 5mo agoWe're already seeing that federal agents are finding clever ways to access this data while hiding the fact that they're federal agents: https://www.404media.co/floridas-wildlife-cops-are-searching-thousands-of-flock-cameras-for-ice/ https://www.404media.co/floridas-wildlife-cops-are-searching... And that's right now. They don't currently own the infra. If you think they're going to be better behaved once they do, you're delusional.
- simoncion 5mo agoI have to wonder if the two who've replied to you are bots. Neither of them seem to have noticed what you meant by "kidnap people".
- charcircuit 5mo agoI am not a bot and I understand that kidnap people can also mean to abduct people which is the age independent term.