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> Back when Musk proposed buying Twitter, the site already was in the gutters I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single serious person who'd say Twitter i

> Back when Musk proposed buying Twitter, the site already was in the gutters I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single serious person who'd say Twitter is a better product/experience today than prior to the acquisition. The place continues to bleed users and is the first stop shop for Nazis

mschuster91 5mo ago
> I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single serious person who'd say Twitter is a better product/experience today than prior to the acquisition. I stated that it already was in the gutters. That does not imply it's gotten out of the gutters ever since. Musk took something that was already pretty much dead and gave it a final shot.
- latexr 5mo ago
  > something that was already pretty much dead You keep saying that, but prior to the acquisition Twitter had finally managed to start turning a profit.
  - mschuster91 5mo ago
    > You keep saying that, but prior to the acquisition Twitter had finally managed to start turning a profit. Profit isn't the only thing that matters in this world ffs. Genuine content that was not relating to politics, the news and nerd topics had long since gone off to Tiktok, Snapchat, Instagram and the likes. Those of us who had been on Twitter since the early days 'member what we lost.
    - latexr 5mo ago
      > Profit isn't the only thing that matters in this world ffs. Which is not the argument. At all. You’re preaching to the choir, I very much argue against the relentless pursuit of profit and my comment history backs up that assertion. But turning a profit does mean it wasn’t close to death. It was in fact starting to turn itself around to become sustainable (and thus not die for lack of resources). Whether you liked their direction is orthogonal. Change does not imply death. > Genuine content that was not relating to politics An emphasis on politics was not Twitter’s fault, it was a consequence of the world changing in a such a way discussing politics more actively became a necessity. > Those of us who had been on Twitter since the early days 'member what we lost. I had been on Twitter since the early days, and I disagree with you. I also disagree that Musk “gave it a final shot”, he pretty much started destroying it with obvious bad decisions from the start. He took a ship which was finally becoming able to remove more water than it was taking in and shot all its cannons at the hull.

mschuster91 5mo ago

> I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single serious person who'd say Twitter is a better product/experience today than prior to the acquisition. I stated that it already was in the gutters. That does not imply it's gotten out of the gutters ever since. Musk took something that was already pretty much dead and gave it a final shot.

latexr 5mo ago
> something that was already pretty much dead You keep saying that, but prior to the acquisition Twitter had finally managed to start turning a profit.
- mschuster91 5mo ago
  > You keep saying that, but prior to the acquisition Twitter had finally managed to start turning a profit. Profit isn't the only thing that matters in this world ffs. Genuine content that was not relating to politics, the news and nerd topics had long since gone off to Tiktok, Snapchat, Instagram and the likes. Those of us who had been on Twitter since the early days 'member what we lost.
  - latexr 5mo ago
    > Profit isn't the only thing that matters in this world ffs. Which is not the argument. At all. You’re preaching to the choir, I very much argue against the relentless pursuit of profit and my comment history backs up that assertion. But turning a profit does mean it wasn’t close to death. It was in fact starting to turn itself around to become sustainable (and thus not die for lack of resources). Whether you liked their direction is orthogonal. Change does not imply death. > Genuine content that was not relating to politics An emphasis on politics was not Twitter’s fault, it was a consequence of the world changing in a such a way discussing politics more actively became a necessity. > Those of us who had been on Twitter since the early days 'member what we lost. I had been on Twitter since the early days, and I disagree with you. I also disagree that Musk “gave it a final shot”, he pretty much started destroying it with obvious bad decisions from the start. He took a ship which was finally becoming able to remove more water than it was taking in and shot all its cannons at the hull.