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Idk what car you have but mine can drive right away, just like Zed.

linsomniac 5mo ago
Not who you are replying to, but the new Lexus RX350h takes and absurdly long time to be ready to drive away, if you want to use the rear camera to help back out of the parking lot.
- 4ndrewl 5mo ago
  Wait, don't you reverse into a parking space and drive straight out?
  - pentium166 5mo ago
    Slow car computers aside, it doesn't really make a difference in the scheme of things. Spend the time backing up now or later. Also, maybe you need to use your trunk and you'd rather have it opening into free space instead of another vehicle or a wall.
    - kstrauser 5mo ago
      I contend it does. People tend to take way more time backing into a space than pulling into it, and hardly more time backing out of a space than pulling forward out of it. I'm certain this isn't how they think of it, but when I see someone blocking traffic while they painfully back into a spot, I imagine them imagining themselves having to fly out of there without a moment to spare, like they plan on having a drastic emergency before they leave. And if that person isn't driving a police or fire department car or the like, I roll my eyes at the delusion of grandeur.
      - djhn 5mo ago
        Surely a big part of the reason is steering leverage relative to the kerb. You are able to one-shot reverse parallel park into a much narrower gap without hitting the bumpers of the cars around you or getting onto the pavement.
  - antonvs 5mo ago
    I always wonder why people do this. What’s the reasoning?
    - smackeyacky 5mo ago
      I wonder this too. It’s much harder to back into a cramped parking space than backing out into an open space. So they do it very slowly. Watching people do this is frustrating.
      - robrtsql 5mo ago
        They would rather back into a parking spot surrounded by stationary obstacles than back into a parking lot or road which may contain pedestrians or other drivers. I'm not saying _I_ back into spaces. I generally drive into spots and reverse out of them. However, I admit that what I do is a tradeoff where I take on risk in order to have a mechanically easier time entering and exiting the space.
        lostmsu 5mo ago
        This makes no sense. In either case the car traverses the same space once forwards and once backwards.
        pegasus 5mo ago
        That's true, but what GP is saying is that when you're pulling out, you are traversing the part of the space overwhelmingly more likely to contain passing pedestrians and vehicles with full visibility. And then some parking spots require parallel parking which is best done via backing up anyway.
        lostmsu 5mo ago
        I don't think you understood what my comment says. The whole point is that it covers your "but".
      - 5mo ago
  - linsomniac 5mo ago
    In my cars, generally, yes. The Lexus in question is my MIL's car, and she prefers it parked at home nose-in. We were also running some errands that required access to the rear (groceries, returning a printer/fax machine).
- za3faran 5mo ago
  Can you elaborate more on why it takes a long time to be ready to drive away in reverse? How long are you talking?
  - linsomniac 5mo ago
    I didn't time it but I'd put it at 30 seconds. It sits there for a while with the infotainment screen black, then it does this animated splash screen, then it loads the infotainment/cameras.
kstrauser 5mo ago
Side note: to a rounding error, all modern cars can be safely driven right away. Wait a few seconds for the sound of the engine to change, indicating that oil is now happily pumping through all the grindy bits, and then you're ready to go. I'm not saying you want to drag race your neighbor 10 seconds after starting the engine for the first time that day, but once you don't hear the tappets being tappety, it's OK to pull out of your driveway and start moving at a sane pace.
- rurban 5mo ago
  > indicating that oil is now happily pumping through all the grindy bits That's not a modern car. Modern cars do not pump oil through all the grindy bits. Modern cars need to wait for the BMC to stabilize its power.
pjmlp 5mo ago
Depending on the planet region, and season, you might actually have to wait before driving. Frozen Winters, heavy snow, diesel pumps,....

Not who you are replying to, but the new Lexus RX350h takes and absurdly long time to be ready to drive away, if you want to use the rear camera to help back out of the parking lot.

4ndrewl 5mo ago
Wait, don't you reverse into a parking space and drive straight out?
- pentium166 5mo ago
  Slow car computers aside, it doesn't really make a difference in the scheme of things. Spend the time backing up now or later. Also, maybe you need to use your trunk and you'd rather have it opening into free space instead of another vehicle or a wall.
  - kstrauser 5mo ago
    I contend it does. People tend to take way more time backing into a space than pulling into it, and hardly more time backing out of a space than pulling forward out of it. I'm certain this isn't how they think of it, but when I see someone blocking traffic while they painfully back into a spot, I imagine them imagining themselves having to fly out of there without a moment to spare, like they plan on having a drastic emergency before they leave. And if that person isn't driving a police or fire department car or the like, I roll my eyes at the delusion of grandeur.
    - djhn 5mo ago
      Surely a big part of the reason is steering leverage relative to the kerb. You are able to one-shot reverse parallel park into a much narrower gap without hitting the bumpers of the cars around you or getting onto the pavement.
- antonvs 5mo ago
  I always wonder why people do this. What’s the reasoning?
  - smackeyacky 5mo ago
    I wonder this too. It’s much harder to back into a cramped parking space than backing out into an open space. So they do it very slowly. Watching people do this is frustrating.
    - robrtsql 5mo ago
      They would rather back into a parking spot surrounded by stationary obstacles than back into a parking lot or road which may contain pedestrians or other drivers. I'm not saying _I_ back into spaces. I generally drive into spots and reverse out of them. However, I admit that what I do is a tradeoff where I take on risk in order to have a mechanically easier time entering and exiting the space.
      - lostmsu 5mo ago
        This makes no sense. In either case the car traverses the same space once forwards and once backwards.
        pegasus 5mo ago
        That's true, but what GP is saying is that when you're pulling out, you are traversing the part of the space overwhelmingly more likely to contain passing pedestrians and vehicles with full visibility. And then some parking spots require parallel parking which is best done via backing up anyway.
        lostmsu 5mo ago
        I don't think you understood what my comment says. The whole point is that it covers your "but".
    - 5mo ago
- linsomniac 5mo ago
  In my cars, generally, yes. The Lexus in question is my MIL's car, and she prefers it parked at home nose-in. We were also running some errands that required access to the rear (groceries, returning a printer/fax machine).
za3faran 5mo ago
Can you elaborate more on why it takes a long time to be ready to drive away in reverse? How long are you talking?
- linsomniac 5mo ago
  I didn't time it but I'd put it at 30 seconds. It sits there for a while with the infotainment screen black, then it does this animated splash screen, then it loads the infotainment/cameras.

kstrauser 5mo ago

Side note: to a rounding error, all modern cars can be safely driven right away. Wait a few seconds for the sound of the engine to change, indicating that oil is now happily pumping through all the grindy bits, and then you're ready to go. I'm not saying you want to drag race your neighbor 10 seconds after starting the engine for the first time that day, but once you don't hear the tappets being tappety, it's OK to pull out of your driveway and start moving at a sane pace.

rurban 5mo ago
> indicating that oil is now happily pumping through all the grindy bits That's not a modern car. Modern cars do not pump oil through all the grindy bits. Modern cars need to wait for the BMC to stabilize its power.

pjmlp 5mo ago

Depending on the planet region, and season, you might actually have to wait before driving. Frozen Winters, heavy snow, diesel pumps,....