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The core problem is a difference in values. You value your own health over causing people you dislike to suffer. They value causing people they dislike to suffe
by SAI_Peregrinus 5mo ago
The core problem is a difference in values. You value your own health over causing people you dislike to suffer. They value causing people they dislike to suffer over their own health. Which choice is "better" is subjective. I'd say that deliberately increasing the suffering of others is bad, especially if it increases the total amount of suffering in the world, but that too is a subjective value judgement.
- throw0101c 5mo ago> I'd say that deliberately increasing the suffering of others is bad, especially if it increases the total amount of suffering in the world, but that too is a subjective value judgement. Invoking Godwin's law: what the Nazis did was not objectively "bad", but simply something you do not agree with.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5mo agoTo a conservative, yep! Conservative morality is inherently relativist, those who do not share their world view deserve punishment, and our suffering makes the world better.
- throw0101c 5mo ago> Conservative morality is inherently relativist […] What? Left-leaning folks are stereotypically more secular and less likely to believe in the supernatural, so as materialists would have less of a foundation for any kind of "objective" morality.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5mo agoA core idea of the conservative state is that there are some chosen people, whether due to their might, wealth, ethnicity, a "god", or something similar, and that the state should protect & serve the chosen people. Those who are not the chosen are bad, and should be exploited to serve the chosen.