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You have a point. But if you prefer listening on your iPod, you would buy the MP3 instead of a physical CD.

by esolyt 14y ago

icebraining 14y ago
That depends on whether the music exists in MP3 format, though. Until yesterday, there was no AC/DC on online music stores like iTunes.
- SquareWheel 14y ago
  I know everybody loves to offer anecdotes when it comes to piracy, but I would never purchase music if I hadn't first downloaded it. One example, I heard of a band called Imaginary Cities from somebody online. Gave 'em a download, absolutely loved them. Sent $10 to the band's Paypal to cover the pirated album. Six months later, I still really love this band. I go to their website and buy the album digitally. My thinking being "I might as well purchase it the right way". Six months later, they come to my town. I buy a ticket, and also purchase a physical CD (cause I'm a sucker). I wouldn't have bought their album 3 times if I hadn't been able to pirate it first. I would have never even heard them play. Now I don't claim this is the case for all the music I download. A lot of it is terrible (I grab the SXSW compilation every year). But I would spend far less money on music if I had to buy an album before I could listen it. And not just a 30 second sample, but enough time to really learn to love it. I didn't care for the newest Metric album at first, but after enough listens I came to really like it. The new Jonathan Coulton album, pirated, and again donated directly to him to pay for it. This system may not work for everybody, but it sure works for me. I can filter out the crap, and pay directly to the artists I love (usually bypassing a huge cut taken from the middle men). So if you have one take-away from this point, it should be to go listen to Imaginary Cities right away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2L7VT0Vg9E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2L7VT0Vg9E And also that the cost of piracy is really hard to quantify.
  - clarky07 14y ago
    So you heard it online, and now you are sending us to a YouTube link with their music, but you had to pirate it to decide if you liked it?
    - SquareWheel 14y ago
      No, I loved this band immediately. Some music such as Metric's new album took me some time though. Maybe it's just conditioning but I now really enjoy both.
    - icebraining 14y ago
      Unless the rights holder him/herself uploaded the video, listening to it on YouTube is no less "piracy" than downloading it.
      - SquareWheel 14y ago
        The band has uploaded a version to Youtube, but it's a "music video" version with a much slower intro, so I opted for the album version. Perhaps that was a mistake.
netcan 14y ago
You already have it on your ipod (you downloaded before buying remember?) Buying the CD is just of way of paying.
- aes256 14y ago
  Unfortunately this kind of retrospective format shifting isn't legal in a bunch of jurisdictions. In the UK one commits two separate acts of copyright infringement by purchasing a CD, ripping it to their computer, and then copying the files to a portable music player.

You have a point. But if you prefer listening on your iPod, you would buy the MP3 instead of a physical CD.

by esolyt 14y ago

You have a point. But if you prefer listening on your iPod, you would buy the MP3 instead of a physical CD.

That depends on whether the music exists in MP3 format, though. Until yesterday, there was no AC/DC on online music stores like iTunes.

SquareWheel 14y ago
I know everybody loves to offer anecdotes when it comes to piracy, but I would never purchase music if I hadn't first downloaded it. One example, I heard of a band called Imaginary Cities from somebody online. Gave 'em a download, absolutely loved them. Sent $10 to the band's Paypal to cover the pirated album. Six months later, I still really love this band. I go to their website and buy the album digitally. My thinking being "I might as well purchase it the right way". Six months later, they come to my town. I buy a ticket, and also purchase a physical CD (cause I'm a sucker). I wouldn't have bought their album 3 times if I hadn't been able to pirate it first. I would have never even heard them play. Now I don't claim this is the case for all the music I download. A lot of it is terrible (I grab the SXSW compilation every year). But I would spend far less money on music if I had to buy an album before I could listen it. And not just a 30 second sample, but enough time to really learn to love it. I didn't care for the newest Metric album at first, but after enough listens I came to really like it. The new Jonathan Coulton album, pirated, and again donated directly to him to pay for it. This system may not work for everybody, but it sure works for me. I can filter out the crap, and pay directly to the artists I love (usually bypassing a huge cut taken from the middle men). So if you have one take-away from this point, it should be to go listen to Imaginary Cities right away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2L7VT0Vg9E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2L7VT0Vg9E And also that the cost of piracy is really hard to quantify.
- clarky07 14y ago
  So you heard it online, and now you are sending us to a YouTube link with their music, but you had to pirate it to decide if you liked it?
  - SquareWheel 14y ago
    No, I loved this band immediately. Some music such as Metric's new album took me some time though. Maybe it's just conditioning but I now really enjoy both.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    Unless the rights holder him/herself uploaded the video, listening to it on YouTube is no less "piracy" than downloading it.
    - SquareWheel 14y ago
      The band has uploaded a version to Youtube, but it's a "music video" version with a much slower intro, so I opted for the album version. Perhaps that was a mistake.

netcan 14y ago

You already have it on your ipod (you downloaded before buying remember?) Buying the CD is just of way of paying.

aes256 14y ago
Unfortunately this kind of retrospective format shifting isn't legal in a bunch of jurisdictions. In the UK one commits two separate acts of copyright infringement by purchasing a CD, ripping it to their computer, and then copying the files to a portable music player.