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Yet I still can not use ruby on it ... Sorry guys - Haiku is a great idea, but it needs to become a real operating system semi-advanced users can use daily. An

Yet I still can not use ruby on it ... Sorry guys - Haiku is a great idea, but it needs to become a real operating system semi-advanced users can use daily. And it hasn't been at that since years. Linux works.

Tiberium 5mo ago
What do you mean by that? It seems like there's Ruby in the packages: https://depot.haiku-os.org/#!/pkg/ruby/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/3/2/9/-/1/x86_64 https://depot.haiku-os.org/#!/pkg/ruby/haikuports/haikuports...
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rvz 5mo ago
> Linux works. Which distro? Linux is an OS kernel, not a full operating system. I still need to know which distro to choose before I install it. No need to do that with macOS or Windows, but Linux is always a problem.
- binaryturtle 5mo ago
  I have no idea which distro to choose actually. Too much choices and it's not clear why one should be better than the other. For some distros it feels more like it's one-man projects for bragging rights. It's also a bit hard to put trust in that. I want to resurrect an older Mac mini with an installation of a Linux distribution, but choosing a suitable distro is the first step I struggle with. Only thing I know is that it won't be an Ubuntu setup. :-) I do run Linux-based systems in various forms already: OpenWRT on the router, an older Debian VM —which I just messed up a few days ago by trying to uninstall a wallpaper package which took down the whole desktop environment for some reason— and Raspbian on the PI. But on some days I feel maybe I just should go for FreeBSD. But it may have similar (to a lesser extend) issues like Haiku with proper up-to-date software, especially in the web browser department? I previously dabbled with Haiku and this was its main issue. The OS itself is pretty nice though.
  - aniviacat 5mo ago
    I've tried a few distros in the past and have now settled (on NixOS for servers and tinkering, and Fedora for just-working). But I've never tried a BSD and would also be curious how using one would turn out. Maybe getting into FreeBSD for a bit would be a fun little project.
    - mghackerlady 5mo ago
      FreeBSD is infinitely better than any flavour of Linux if you can do what you need to on it. Great performance, superb documentation, the software just works for the most part (an update in the libc isn't going to break any of the base packages, for example). It takes a while to get it set up, and it can be picky about hardware, but I totally recommend
      - gatane 5mo ago
        The BSDs still cannot run docker
        mghackerlady 5mo ago
        FreeBSD has jails and a great hypervisor. Also it can do podman iirc
        lproven 5mo ago
        No, because Docker is a tool for running Linux containers. You can use the Linuxulator to run Linux binaries on FreeBSD, including entire distro userlands in Jails. You can use Podman to build and manage OCI containers with Docker-compatible commands. In other words: you as making the classic XY mistake. https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
  - jonhohle 5mo ago
    You should just go FreeBSD, but expect to have to learn along the way. My FreeBSD install is about 20 years old and still going well. It started as an Athlon 80GB NAS and has grown into 16-core and 12TB with Linux VMs for LLMs on a dedicated NVME. It would be nice if more worked natively on FreeBSD, but the things that work work great.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 5mo ago
  Which Windows? I personally always install LTSC because there's no ads and less bloat, but sometimes random things don't work. This isn't a problem with Android, but Windows is always a problem
trevithick 5mo ago
> it needs to become a real operating system semi-advanced users can use daily No it doesn't.
OhMeadhbh 5mo ago
It's completely okay for people who are not you to have requirements and preferences that are not yours. If you don't like HaikuOS, don't use it.
paddim8 5mo ago
What an entitled take.

Tiberium 5mo ago

What do you mean by that? It seems like there's Ruby in the packages: https://depot.haiku-os.org/#!/pkg/ruby/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/3/2/9/-/1/x86_64 https://depot.haiku-os.org/#!/pkg/ruby/haikuports/haikuports...

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rvz 5mo ago

> Linux works. Which distro? Linux is an OS kernel, not a full operating system. I still need to know which distro to choose before I install it. No need to do that with macOS or Windows, but Linux is always a problem.

binaryturtle 5mo ago
I have no idea which distro to choose actually. Too much choices and it's not clear why one should be better than the other. For some distros it feels more like it's one-man projects for bragging rights. It's also a bit hard to put trust in that. I want to resurrect an older Mac mini with an installation of a Linux distribution, but choosing a suitable distro is the first step I struggle with. Only thing I know is that it won't be an Ubuntu setup. :-) I do run Linux-based systems in various forms already: OpenWRT on the router, an older Debian VM —which I just messed up a few days ago by trying to uninstall a wallpaper package which took down the whole desktop environment for some reason— and Raspbian on the PI. But on some days I feel maybe I just should go for FreeBSD. But it may have similar (to a lesser extend) issues like Haiku with proper up-to-date software, especially in the web browser department? I previously dabbled with Haiku and this was its main issue. The OS itself is pretty nice though.
- aniviacat 5mo ago
  I've tried a few distros in the past and have now settled (on NixOS for servers and tinkering, and Fedora for just-working). But I've never tried a BSD and would also be curious how using one would turn out. Maybe getting into FreeBSD for a bit would be a fun little project.
  - mghackerlady 5mo ago
    FreeBSD is infinitely better than any flavour of Linux if you can do what you need to on it. Great performance, superb documentation, the software just works for the most part (an update in the libc isn't going to break any of the base packages, for example). It takes a while to get it set up, and it can be picky about hardware, but I totally recommend
    - gatane 5mo ago
      The BSDs still cannot run docker
      - mghackerlady 5mo ago
        FreeBSD has jails and a great hypervisor. Also it can do podman iirc
      - lproven 5mo ago
        No, because Docker is a tool for running Linux containers. You can use the Linuxulator to run Linux binaries on FreeBSD, including entire distro userlands in Jails. You can use Podman to build and manage OCI containers with Docker-compatible commands. In other words: you as making the classic XY mistake. https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
- jonhohle 5mo ago
  You should just go FreeBSD, but expect to have to learn along the way. My FreeBSD install is about 20 years old and still going well. It started as an Athlon 80GB NAS and has grown into 16-core and 12TB with Linux VMs for LLMs on a dedicated NVME. It would be nice if more worked natively on FreeBSD, but the things that work work great.
OsrsNeedsf2P 5mo ago
Which Windows? I personally always install LTSC because there's no ads and less bloat, but sometimes random things don't work. This isn't a problem with Android, but Windows is always a problem

trevithick 5mo ago

> it needs to become a real operating system semi-advanced users can use daily No it doesn't.

OhMeadhbh 5mo ago

It's completely okay for people who are not you to have requirements and preferences that are not yours. If you don't like HaikuOS, don't use it.

paddim8 5mo ago

What an entitled take.