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Citizens can absolutely do that. Corporations might be "people" but they aren't citizens. Especially if they participate in shenanigans designed to "minimize"

by NickC25 5mo ago

Citizens can absolutely do that. Corporations might be "people" but they aren't citizens. Especially if they participate in shenanigans designed to "minimize" their tax exposure that involve shell corporations in other countries.

PaulDavisThe1st 5mo ago
As the bumper sticker/fridge magnet says, "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one of them".
- s1artibartfast 5mo ago
  Almost certianly manufactured by a company that could otherwise be prohiited from printing it. Interesting.
  - red-iron-pine 5mo ago
    > Founder, Corporate sellout, well at least they're not hiding it
s1artibartfast 5mo ago
it would be a very different and interesting world if individuals lost their right of free speach if they organize as a group
- NickC25 5mo ago
  This is being disingenuous. Maybe not deliberately so, but still. There's a difference between a few people getting together and petitioning the government for redress; versus, a multitrillion dollar corporation (that pays little to no tax, and is the recipient of very generous government contracts) buying its way to the front of the line and whining until it gets its way.
  - s1artibartfast 5mo ago
    I thought we were talking about free speach? If so, I dont think it is off topic at all. People literally advocate that. In citizens united, the government’s position was that, under their interpretation of the law, the government had the authority to prohibit a corporation or a non-profit organization of any size from publishing a book or pamphlets if they had political implications. Where would you draw the line? what does "buying its way to the front of the line and whining until it gets its way" mean in practice?
twoodfin 5mo ago
The Constitution applies to the People of the United States. Not only citizens, and not only people who haven’t formed certain kinds of voluntary associations (another right protected up front!)

by NickC25 5mo ago

PaulDavisThe1st 5mo ago

As the bumper sticker/fridge magnet says, "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one of them".

s1artibartfast 5mo ago
Almost certianly manufactured by a company that could otherwise be prohiited from printing it. Interesting.
- red-iron-pine 5mo ago
  > Founder, Corporate sellout, well at least they're not hiding it

s1artibartfast 5mo ago

it would be a very different and interesting world if individuals lost their right of free speach if they organize as a group

NickC25 5mo ago
This is being disingenuous. Maybe not deliberately so, but still. There's a difference between a few people getting together and petitioning the government for redress; versus, a multitrillion dollar corporation (that pays little to no tax, and is the recipient of very generous government contracts) buying its way to the front of the line and whining until it gets its way.
- s1artibartfast 5mo ago
  I thought we were talking about free speach? If so, I dont think it is off topic at all. People literally advocate that. In citizens united, the government’s position was that, under their interpretation of the law, the government had the authority to prohibit a corporation or a non-profit organization of any size from publishing a book or pamphlets if they had political implications. Where would you draw the line? what does "buying its way to the front of the line and whining until it gets its way" mean in practice?

twoodfin 5mo ago

The Constitution applies to the People of the United States. Not only citizens, and not only people who haven’t formed certain kinds of voluntary associations (another right protected up front!)