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> I don't see the difference between what's happening in the US and the supposedly good guys that rule me. Many EU countries' current obsession with E2EE and a

by lmc 5mo ago

> I don't see the difference between what's happening in the US and the supposedly good guys that rule me. Many EU countries' current obsession with E2EE and age verification is fucked, but we are still (thankfully) a way from the state of the States. - We don't need to submit a history of our social media accounts before crossing a border - (Most) of our libraries aren't having to make joint statements about free speech (https://www.orbiscascade.org/free-speech-statement/ https://www.orbiscascade.org/free-speech-statement/) - And regarding free press - https://www.wfae.org/2026-01-20/stars-and-stripes-top-editor-talks-about-pentagons-takeover-of-the-newspaper https://www.wfae.org/2026-01-20/stars-and-stripes-top-editor...

pessimizer 5mo ago
> We don't need to submit a history of our social media accounts before crossing a border Americans don't have to do that when crossing between states either. Are you saying that Americans' social media histories aren't considered when they wish to travel to Europe? > And regarding free press - https://www.wfae.org/2026-01-20/stars-and-stripes-top-editor https://www.wfae.org/2026-01-20/stars-and-stripes-top-editor... Weird example. Stars and Stripes is a government-created periodical that covers the military.
- lmc 5mo ago
  > Americans don't have to do that when crossing between states either. That's a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. > Are you saying that Americans' social media histories aren't considered when they wish to travel to Europe? Yes. > Weird example. Stars and Stripes is a government-created periodical that covers the military. Which typically had editorial independence - exactly the kind of free speech Americans used to be proud of.
christkv 5mo ago
What is your point that I should accept my freedoms being curtailed and the gradual loss of a fair judicial system because you feel the us is worse?
- lmc 5mo ago
  Absolutely not. Just to not give in to populist figures that absolutely will not make it better.
  - christkv 5mo ago
    So who will make it better when it's the entire establishment (all legacy parties) who all are colluding to drive towards the police state?

by lmc 5mo ago

pessimizer 5mo ago

> We don't need to submit a history of our social media accounts before crossing a border Americans don't have to do that when crossing between states either. Are you saying that Americans' social media histories aren't considered when they wish to travel to Europe? > And regarding free press - https://www.wfae.org/2026-01-20/stars-and-stripes-top-editor https://www.wfae.org/2026-01-20/stars-and-stripes-top-editor... Weird example. Stars and Stripes is a government-created periodical that covers the military.

lmc 5mo ago
> Americans don't have to do that when crossing between states either. That's a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. > Are you saying that Americans' social media histories aren't considered when they wish to travel to Europe? Yes. > Weird example. Stars and Stripes is a government-created periodical that covers the military. Which typically had editorial independence - exactly the kind of free speech Americans used to be proud of.

christkv 5mo ago

What is your point that I should accept my freedoms being curtailed and the gradual loss of a fair judicial system because you feel the us is worse?

lmc 5mo ago
Absolutely not. Just to not give in to populist figures that absolutely will not make it better.
- christkv 5mo ago
  So who will make it better when it's the entire establishment (all legacy parties) who all are colluding to drive towards the police state?