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+1 I am a paid subscriber. I am kind of ok with the price increase. The "coincident" with change of CEO and remove of "always free" tag worries me though.

by j16sdiz 5mo ago

jnovek 5mo ago
I just sent them a message along these lines. I’m happy to pay for good services, but M&A means cost-cutting measures to make the company look good for acquisition and that makes me uncomfortable with letting them store secure data for me. Switching is going to be a pain.
- bglusman 5mo ago
  It is really easy to self-host, and do so securely...
  - jnovek 5mo ago
    I’m not buying hosting from a password manager, I’m buying security. I don’t have complete confidence that I can secure a self-hosted password manager and it’s not an area where I want to take risks.
    - xienze 5mo ago
      It's very simple, just don't make it accessible outside your home network. Clients sync when the server is accessible and use last synced data otherwise.
      - gherkinnn 5mo ago
        The effort required to set this up far outweighs the price to pay someone to do it for me. I pay a cleaner, I have a dishwasher, I pay someone to do my taxes, I pay for companies to host software. Then again, I never order food and almost never get takeaway, as cooking is nice and I value my food enough to care what goes in it. Cheaper too, easily offsetting what I pay for my password manager.
        l72 5mo ago
        I mean does it? I have set it up before but I just set it up for my new small office team. I already had an internal server and WireGuard vpn in our office and it took 2 minutes to create a quadlet to run vaultwarden and a few more to configure it. The “hardest” part was training the team on how to use collections.
        rmunn 5mo ago
        Tailscale for your laptop, phone, etc. to be able to talk to the other computers when away from your home WiFi. (Optional, but makes syncing easier). Syncthing, talking to your Tailscale IP addresses if you use it, or your private WiFi network addresses if you don't use Tailscale. One folder synced, containing keyfile2.kdbx. 30 minutes to set up and then you almost never need to think about it again. If you don't trust Tailscale, you can run a Headscale server or just not use it. And the syncing is entirely run on your machines; your data never ends up written to someone else's SSD. It's really not much effort.

+1 I am a paid subscriber. I am kind of ok with the price increase. The "coincident" with change of CEO and remove of "always free" tag worries me though.

by j16sdiz 5mo ago

+1 I am a paid subscriber. I am kind of ok with the price increase. The "coincident" with change of CEO and remove of "always free" tag worries me though.

jnovek 5mo ago

I just sent them a message along these lines. I’m happy to pay for good services, but M&A means cost-cutting measures to make the company look good for acquisition and that makes me uncomfortable with letting them store secure data for me. Switching is going to be a pain.

bglusman 5mo ago
It is really easy to self-host, and do so securely...
- jnovek 5mo ago
  I’m not buying hosting from a password manager, I’m buying security. I don’t have complete confidence that I can secure a self-hosted password manager and it’s not an area where I want to take risks.
  - xienze 5mo ago
    It's very simple, just don't make it accessible outside your home network. Clients sync when the server is accessible and use last synced data otherwise.
    - gherkinnn 5mo ago
      The effort required to set this up far outweighs the price to pay someone to do it for me. I pay a cleaner, I have a dishwasher, I pay someone to do my taxes, I pay for companies to host software. Then again, I never order food and almost never get takeaway, as cooking is nice and I value my food enough to care what goes in it. Cheaper too, easily offsetting what I pay for my password manager.
      - l72 5mo ago
        I mean does it? I have set it up before but I just set it up for my new small office team. I already had an internal server and WireGuard vpn in our office and it took 2 minutes to create a quadlet to run vaultwarden and a few more to configure it. The “hardest” part was training the team on how to use collections.
      - rmunn 5mo ago
        Tailscale for your laptop, phone, etc. to be able to talk to the other computers when away from your home WiFi. (Optional, but makes syncing easier). Syncthing, talking to your Tailscale IP addresses if you use it, or your private WiFi network addresses if you don't use Tailscale. One folder synced, containing keyfile2.kdbx. 30 minutes to set up and then you almost never need to think about it again. If you don't trust Tailscale, you can run a Headscale server or just not use it. And the syncing is entirely run on your machines; your data never ends up written to someone else's SSD. It's really not much effort.