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> So now it's personal and I'm the bad guy It's not personal, but yes, you're being intentionally obtuse to OP's point. > and it's not an opinion or theory be

by Klonoar 5mo ago

> So now it's personal and I'm the bad guy It's not personal, but yes, you're being intentionally obtuse to OP's point. > and it's not an opinion or theory because I've proven it by shipping an app You are once again downplaying the level of effort difference that OP is describing, thus missing the point entirely. > if you bend it the wrong way you'll get bad results OP did not bend it the wrong way, they tried several different approaches because it wasn't working as intended off the bat (i.e, without bending). OP's point was never that things were "not possible", it's that it's a stupid amount of effort for table-stakes functionality. If you don't get that point by now then I don't think you'll get it at all.

msephton 5mo ago
I'm not being obtuse, on the contrary I am bright and focussed enough that my experience building an app around TextKit 2 was opposite to the premise of the OP. It's a few lines of code to add a TextKit2 component to an app, and it just works. It is what the developer does with it afterwards that will make or break it. The same goes for Electron, it is not a panacea. That's just software development, the developer is responsible for the code they write. So the reader is free to accept my story about my shipped app and my assurance that it didn't take unreasonable effort, or accept a blog post complaining how difficult things are that has no code or shipped app at the end of it.
- Klonoar 5mo ago
  Judging by the color of the text on your comment (currently downvoted gray), I think it's pretty clear how readers are taking it. I would encourage you to take a wider view of the problems in the UI ecosystem and why people make tradeoffs like they do.
  - msephton 5mo ago
    The comment has one downvote. The wider view is that TextKit 2 works out of the box and its up to the developer to mess it up, or not. I made an app using it, quite easily, it's selling very well, thanks! No tradeoffs needed.

by Klonoar 5mo ago

msephton 5mo ago

I'm not being obtuse, on the contrary I am bright and focussed enough that my experience building an app around TextKit 2 was opposite to the premise of the OP. It's a few lines of code to add a TextKit2 component to an app, and it just works. It is what the developer does with it afterwards that will make or break it. The same goes for Electron, it is not a panacea. That's just software development, the developer is responsible for the code they write. So the reader is free to accept my story about my shipped app and my assurance that it didn't take unreasonable effort, or accept a blog post complaining how difficult things are that has no code or shipped app at the end of it.

Klonoar 5mo ago
Judging by the color of the text on your comment (currently downvoted gray), I think it's pretty clear how readers are taking it. I would encourage you to take a wider view of the problems in the UI ecosystem and why people make tradeoffs like they do.
- msephton 5mo ago
  The comment has one downvote. The wider view is that TextKit 2 works out of the box and its up to the developer to mess it up, or not. I made an app using it, quite easily, it's selling very well, thanks! No tradeoffs needed.