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If Russia is truly losing ground and if they see this as an existential threat could this possibly lead to the use of nukes?
by Bender 6mo ago
If Russia is truly losing ground and if they see this as an existential threat could this possibly lead to the use of nukes?
- postepowanieadm 6mo agoNo.
- usui 6mo agoProbably more nuke threats at least though?
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoRussia can obliterate every European HQ with conventional weapons. Oreshnik alone could decapitate the EU in under 30 minutes.
- pjc50 6mo agoThe EU does have air defences and QRA. Eastern Europe is more at risk from this. And then the question people keep failing to ask: "now what"? Russia is then fully at war with Europe and an open field for air strikes.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoWhat AD? Patriot has shown itself to be incapable of defending itself, leave alone a capital city.
- pjc50 6mo agoUK deploys Star Streak for protecting critical locations. There was some mild controversy over this being deployed for the Olympics.
- egorfine 6mo agoPlease google what is Oreshnik and what this weapon is capable of. Spoiler: it's absolutely useless. Russia does have great weapons that CAN hurt a lot, but Oreshnik is not one of them.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoPlease read what the experts say. Google is worthless and has been for years. http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2026/05/the-best-version-of.html http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2026/05/the-best-version-of....
- general1465 6mo agoIt is a ballistic missile which has precision to barely hit a city. Which is fine if you will put 1MT nuke on top of it. However there are no conventional warheads for that missile, so it can't even do any damage and thus it is completely useless.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoIndeed, it's completely useless https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/russia-uses-hypersonic-oreshnik-missile-in-deadly-strike-on-ukraine-all-about-putins-lethal-weapon-2026-05-24-1042289 https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/russia-uses-hypersoni...
- jemmyw 6mo agoIf this were true then Russia would have won the war in Ukraine already.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoDefine "won the war" Russia's definition or the western concept of land grab. Putin laid it out very clearly in his speeches. They are not interested in a land grab, they want to denazify The Ukraine and liberate the Russian speaking regions. Denazification means more banderaites and by extension no more NATO.
- SanjayMehta 6mo ago*no more banderaites
- general1465 6mo ago> Putin laid it out very clearly in his speeches Target has been conquering Kyiv and installing pro-russian vassal government like in Belarus. He tried to, as we have seen first 3 months, but spectacularly failed. Everything after first 3 months is grinding war to save face without a clearly defined target.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoSorry, wrong. The first target was to get back control of the Russian speaking regions, which is ongoing. What you're saying is what Western media has made up since day one. Per usual. The second target is denazification. Which means getting rid of the Nuland installed regime.
- general1465 6mo agoSo why there has been a push to Kyiv at the beginning instead of push for conquering rest of the Donbas? Western media probably made that one too?
- ponector 6mo agoRight, russian army is so powerful it took more than a year to capture a small city Pokrovsk.
- pjc50 6mo agoI am increasingly skeptical as to whether the nukes would actually work if tried, given some of the failures of the start of the Russian campaign, and I suspect they also have that concern. If you're brandishing a gun to threaten people and it goes "click" rather than "bang", suddenly your situation collapses. Which means there's an intermediate step: carrying out an above ground nuclear test. This obviously violates the Test Ban Treaty, but is a lower step than just blowing away Kyiv.
- Zigurd 6mo agoUranium and plutonium bombs can tolerate a lot of neglect if conservatively engineered. Even a dud H bomb would make quite a mess and kill a lot of people if exploded over a city.
- DANmode 6mo agoEMP effects alone.
- general1465 6mo agoIf it is dud, it won't initiate and won't create any EMP
- BadBadJellyBean 6mo agoEverything could lead to nukes with Russia. There is no "this far and no closer or I will use nukes". They will or won't use them at their own discretion. Ukraine has long decided that they will not be deterred by the threat of nuclear bombs. They seem to be determined to win back the territory that they have lost or at least put themselves into a better bargaining position.
- jfengel 6mo agoUkraine will not be deterred, but their weapons suppliers are. They've limited how much and what kind of aid they give to Ukraine, seemingly out of some kind of calculus about what will push Russia over the edge. It's wildly unclear whether that calculus is too risky, too cautious, or completely unmoored from reality. About all that we do know is that Russia hasn't nuked anybody... yet.
- red-iron-pine 6mo agomost of their weapon suppliers are not deterred, they're busy replenishing their own stockpiles, long since neglected due to post-cold war "peace dividends" and putin owns trump, so that's not a nuke thing
- giwook 6mo agoIt is not an existential threat. Ukraine simply does not have the manpower to overtake a country that is many multiples larger and more populous than them. And territorial expansion and conquest of neighboring countries is Russia's MO, not Ukraine's.
- Der_Einzige 6mo ago[flagged]
- ryandvm 6mo agowat