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> 4. Solves CAPTCHAs via CapSolver (AI-powered, ~$0.001/solve) Right, so my suspicion was correct: I'm the only one being inconvenienced by the same old captch

> 4. Solves CAPTCHAs via CapSolver (AI-powered, ~$0.001/solve) Right, so my suspicion was correct: I'm the only one being inconvenienced by the same old captchas.

thesimon 5mo ago
Makes it tempting to buy paid captcha solving just to enjoy life more
- sixothree 5mo ago
  Google has a new captcha coming down the line that requires a phone connection and scanning of a QR code.
jeroenhd 5mo ago
It depends on the CAPTCHA, but there's a reason why Apple, Cloudflare, and Google are shifting towards remote attestation for proof-of-humanity. The reCAPTCHA v3 Enterprise version and MtCaptcha cost a whopping 3x as much ($3 per 1000 solves). Seems like they're the best CAPTCHAs to go for.
- muyuu 5mo ago
  Captchas are getting so annoying and puzzling they will soon prove you're unlikely to be human if you pass them.
  - mynameisash 5mo ago
    I think my browsing habits may have changed, as I rarely see captchas. However, just the other day, my son was frustrated by one that he said had taken him fifteen or more tries, and he still hadn't succeeded.
    - weberer 5mo ago
      Yeah, that is a very common complaint about Google's recaptcha. If they don't like you, they actually just send you through an infinite failure loop, even though you keep solving them correctly.
  - jorvi 5mo ago
    Its only Google's ReCaptcha that sucks, with its eternal gaslighting. "Select stairs": okay, does that mean the railing too? And probably some percentage of people clicked rails, so now I have meta it and guess if that percentage is enough to throw off my guess. "Select motorbike": okay, but you're showing me a bicycle. I'll click "skip". FAIL. TRY AGAIN. Sighs.. okay, I guess the average person is so dim-witted they will misidentify a bicycle for a motorbike.
    - GJim 5mo ago
      > "Select stairs" And the "correct" pictures all shows steps, not stairs. > "Select motorbike" And the "correct" pictures all show mopeds, not motorbikes. Christ, don't get me stated on taxis that aren't black, fire hydrants that aren't a yellow H sign (apparently I'm supposed to look for something like a yellow painted R2D2) and WTF is a "crosswalk" (a pedestrian crossing?).
    - brookst 5mo ago
      It’s not just Google. Look at Arkose, which are not only difficult for humans to solve, they’re difficult for humans to even understand (“move the particle to the correct orbit”).
    - gruez 5mo ago
      >with its eternal gaslighting. That's not gaslighting. >And probably some percentage of people clicked rails, so now I have meta it and guess if that percentage is enough to throw off my guess. No, there are multiple accepted answers.
      - jorvi 5mo ago
        > That's not gaslighting. It is gaslighting me into thinking I gave the wrong answer. > No, there are multiple accepted answers. Nope, even for very simple things like "select all fire hydrants" (which are extremely obvious) or "select all images with cars" (with the images only being images completely devoid of cars or only cars, no lorries or busses), you still get a fail. I assume you work on Captchas, which makes it extra cute you're trying to gaslight me about the built-in gaslighting :). It is really obvious too because it doesn't happen when not using a privacy browser and/or VPN. At any rate, I hope you internalize that your work has made everyone's everyday life a little more miserable. A net negative to society.
- rib3ye 5mo ago
  Roblox, by far, has the strangest and most difficult to solve.
  - queuebert 5mo ago
    Some chess sites make you solve a checkmate problem for a captcha. Are those automated now, or is that a good method?
    - tintor 5mo ago
      Isn’t chess easy now for computers? How can that be a good method?
- heroh 5mo ago
  recaptcha v3 will require the human to have a Google certified android device (i.e. no GrapheneOS or LineageOS etc.) and a dedicated iOS app which leaks device ID and other data. Google will get to know every user browsing the web and link it to a smartphone. Since they’re rolling out government issue ID verification at the OS level, this change will allow Google to identify a random web visitor to a govt ID. https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652?hl=en https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652?hl=en
  - brookst 5mo ago
    More info on how an iOS app can leak device ID? I thought Apple did away with access to device IDs and only provides a per-developer ID.
    - gruez 5mo ago
      The "device ID" part is probably false and a red herring. What actually matters is that google can correlate which challenges a given device is solving, so if it's solving 10k challenges per day, it can be marked as being suspicious.
      - repelsteeltje 5mo ago
        Sounds pretty much like they're identify the device, then. Or is "device id" Apple lingo for a specific tech?
        gruez 5mo ago
        No, on both android and ios device id implies some sort of identifier that's reusable across apps. Otherwise a uuid that you generate and write to storage could qualify as a "device id".
        repelsteeltje 5mo ago
        So, essentially a super cookie? That is, generated once (at random or arbitrarily) and then included with proof of work? But not a fingerprint or otherwise linked to identity? But then that would not work against correlating fraud detection as sketched above. A client could simply reset the app every now and then to generate a new UUID.
aembleton 5mo ago
Looks like they have a browser extension! https://www.capsolver.com/products/browser-extension https://www.capsolver.com/products/browser-extension

> 4. Solves CAPTCHAs via CapSolver (AI-powered, ~$0.001/solve) Right, so my suspicion was correct: I'm the only one being inconvenienced by the same old captchas.

thesimon 5mo ago

Makes it tempting to buy paid captcha solving just to enjoy life more

sixothree 5mo ago
Google has a new captcha coming down the line that requires a phone connection and scanning of a QR code.

jeroenhd 5mo ago

It depends on the CAPTCHA, but there's a reason why Apple, Cloudflare, and Google are shifting towards remote attestation for proof-of-humanity. The reCAPTCHA v3 Enterprise version and MtCaptcha cost a whopping 3x as much ($3 per 1000 solves). Seems like they're the best CAPTCHAs to go for.

muyuu 5mo ago
Captchas are getting so annoying and puzzling they will soon prove you're unlikely to be human if you pass them.
- mynameisash 5mo ago
  I think my browsing habits may have changed, as I rarely see captchas. However, just the other day, my son was frustrated by one that he said had taken him fifteen or more tries, and he still hadn't succeeded.
  - weberer 5mo ago
    Yeah, that is a very common complaint about Google's recaptcha. If they don't like you, they actually just send you through an infinite failure loop, even though you keep solving them correctly.
- jorvi 5mo ago
  Its only Google's ReCaptcha that sucks, with its eternal gaslighting. "Select stairs": okay, does that mean the railing too? And probably some percentage of people clicked rails, so now I have meta it and guess if that percentage is enough to throw off my guess. "Select motorbike": okay, but you're showing me a bicycle. I'll click "skip". FAIL. TRY AGAIN. Sighs.. okay, I guess the average person is so dim-witted they will misidentify a bicycle for a motorbike.
  - GJim 5mo ago
    > "Select stairs" And the "correct" pictures all shows steps, not stairs. > "Select motorbike" And the "correct" pictures all show mopeds, not motorbikes. Christ, don't get me stated on taxis that aren't black, fire hydrants that aren't a yellow H sign (apparently I'm supposed to look for something like a yellow painted R2D2) and WTF is a "crosswalk" (a pedestrian crossing?).
  - brookst 5mo ago
    It’s not just Google. Look at Arkose, which are not only difficult for humans to solve, they’re difficult for humans to even understand (“move the particle to the correct orbit”).
  - gruez 5mo ago
    >with its eternal gaslighting. That's not gaslighting. >And probably some percentage of people clicked rails, so now I have meta it and guess if that percentage is enough to throw off my guess. No, there are multiple accepted answers.
    - jorvi 5mo ago
      > That's not gaslighting. It is gaslighting me into thinking I gave the wrong answer. > No, there are multiple accepted answers. Nope, even for very simple things like "select all fire hydrants" (which are extremely obvious) or "select all images with cars" (with the images only being images completely devoid of cars or only cars, no lorries or busses), you still get a fail. I assume you work on Captchas, which makes it extra cute you're trying to gaslight me about the built-in gaslighting :). It is really obvious too because it doesn't happen when not using a privacy browser and/or VPN. At any rate, I hope you internalize that your work has made everyone's everyday life a little more miserable. A net negative to society.
rib3ye 5mo ago
Roblox, by far, has the strangest and most difficult to solve.
- queuebert 5mo ago
  Some chess sites make you solve a checkmate problem for a captcha. Are those automated now, or is that a good method?
  - tintor 5mo ago
    Isn’t chess easy now for computers? How can that be a good method?
heroh 5mo ago
recaptcha v3 will require the human to have a Google certified android device (i.e. no GrapheneOS or LineageOS etc.) and a dedicated iOS app which leaks device ID and other data. Google will get to know every user browsing the web and link it to a smartphone. Since they’re rolling out government issue ID verification at the OS level, this change will allow Google to identify a random web visitor to a govt ID. https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652?hl=en https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652?hl=en
- brookst 5mo ago
  More info on how an iOS app can leak device ID? I thought Apple did away with access to device IDs and only provides a per-developer ID.
  - gruez 5mo ago
    The "device ID" part is probably false and a red herring. What actually matters is that google can correlate which challenges a given device is solving, so if it's solving 10k challenges per day, it can be marked as being suspicious.
    - repelsteeltje 5mo ago
      Sounds pretty much like they're identify the device, then. Or is "device id" Apple lingo for a specific tech?
      - gruez 5mo ago
        No, on both android and ios device id implies some sort of identifier that's reusable across apps. Otherwise a uuid that you generate and write to storage could qualify as a "device id".
        repelsteeltje 5mo ago
        So, essentially a super cookie? That is, generated once (at random or arbitrarily) and then included with proof of work? But not a fingerprint or otherwise linked to identity? But then that would not work against correlating fraud detection as sketched above. A client could simply reset the app every now and then to generate a new UUID.

aembleton 5mo ago

Looks like they have a browser extension! https://www.capsolver.com/products/browser-extension https://www.capsolver.com/products/browser-extension