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Migrants to Germany account for 30.2% of the total population. Is Germany not enough diverse for you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany htt

by slaw 5mo ago

Migrants to Germany account for 30.2% of the total population. Is Germany not enough diverse for you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany

oytis 5mo ago
Yes, sorry, there is a lot of diversity of course, especially on the lower level. It's rather equality and inclusion that need improving. It's an anecdotal evidence, but while looking for a job I liked looking up employees on linkedin, then looking up the leadership on company's website. First one would always be much more diverse than the second one
- slaw 5mo ago
  You didn't notice older people are Germans and younger migrants?
  - scihuber 5mo ago
    The Germans themselves chose not to have children.
    - AdrianB1 5mo ago
      I think they were pushed not to have children, if that matters. Pushed via economical measures that made it very hard and pushed via education/indoctrination that kids are bad in multiple ways. My grandparents had many brothers and sisters each and life was harder back then, but it was easier to raise a large family than today. What changed? Taxes, with direct and indirect effects.
      - oytis 5mo ago
        > What changed? Contraception. Children weren't optional back then, they just happened naturally.
  - dgellow 5mo ago
    Wait until you learn you can be German and not look like the Bavarian stereotypes
dgellow 5mo ago
From your own link 30% is the widest definition possible: > As of 2024, around 17.4 million people living in Germany, or 20.9% of the population, are first-generation immigrants, while the population with a migrant background in the wider sense stood at approximately 25.2 million, accounting for 30.2% of the total population of 83.5 million Thats a very misleading statistic
- oytis 5mo ago
  "Migrant background" is really broad indeed, it takes just one parent who wasn't born with a German parent to be considered as having a "background". Also most of them are EU migrants
  - oytis 5mo ago
    who wasn't born with a German passport, sorry. So in worst case one immigrant grandparent is enough
- slaw 5mo ago
  What exactly is misleading to you?

by slaw 5mo ago

oytis 5mo ago

Yes, sorry, there is a lot of diversity of course, especially on the lower level. It's rather equality and inclusion that need improving. It's an anecdotal evidence, but while looking for a job I liked looking up employees on linkedin, then looking up the leadership on company's website. First one would always be much more diverse than the second one

slaw 5mo ago
You didn't notice older people are Germans and younger migrants?
- scihuber 5mo ago
  The Germans themselves chose not to have children.
  - AdrianB1 5mo ago
    I think they were pushed not to have children, if that matters. Pushed via economical measures that made it very hard and pushed via education/indoctrination that kids are bad in multiple ways. My grandparents had many brothers and sisters each and life was harder back then, but it was easier to raise a large family than today. What changed? Taxes, with direct and indirect effects.
    - oytis 5mo ago
      > What changed? Contraception. Children weren't optional back then, they just happened naturally.
- dgellow 5mo ago
  Wait until you learn you can be German and not look like the Bavarian stereotypes

dgellow 5mo ago

From your own link 30% is the widest definition possible: > As of 2024, around 17.4 million people living in Germany, or 20.9% of the population, are first-generation immigrants, while the population with a migrant background in the wider sense stood at approximately 25.2 million, accounting for 30.2% of the total population of 83.5 million Thats a very misleading statistic

oytis 5mo ago
"Migrant background" is really broad indeed, it takes just one parent who wasn't born with a German parent to be considered as having a "background". Also most of them are EU migrants
- oytis 5mo ago
  who wasn't born with a German passport, sorry. So in worst case one immigrant grandparent is enough
slaw 5mo ago
What exactly is misleading to you?