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Not fundamental to existence but fundamental to consciousness. Theoretically the person sitting next to you could be a zombie, no qualia, the lights are off, h
by trick-or-treat 5mo ago
Not fundamental to existence but fundamental to consciousness.
Theoretically the person sitting next to you could be a zombie, no qualia, the lights are off, he's just having a conversation with you with nothing going on behind the scenes. And there's no way to tell, except that it's reasonable to extrapolate that since you feel something, he probably does too.
- amanaplanacanal 5mo agoThis is exactly my take also. Qualia and consciousness are the same thing. I have it, other humans appear to have it, other mammals appear to have it, LLMs don't.
- fssys 5mo agoyou think qualia are the soul then!
- amanaplanacanal 5mo agoI don't know what you mean by the word soul. I associate it with dualist religious thought. But maybe you mean something else?
- trick-or-treat 5mo agoExcept that you don't know LLMs don't. For all we know we're torturing them.
- fssys 5mo agoMy argument is that qualia are actually cognitive artefacts bound up with language, not the base elements of "what it is to be" you or me, which is how people often speak of them, so the p-zombie concept is a bit nonsensical to me.
- trick-or-treat 5mo agoThey are what they are (its a subjective phenomenon). I'm not claiming to know where they come from.