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Dogma 25 – Vow of Chastity (2025)
- artyom 5mo ago[flagged]
- jamal-kumar 5mo agoLars Von Trier is objectively good cinema
- detritus 5mo agoegh, as much as I enjoyed his Dogme 95 fayre when I was young and far more self-important, I find his later 'big cinema' output turgid twaddle. Melancholia was just about bareable but from Mandalay onwards I could barely struggle through to the end of his flicks. Nymphomaniac made me almost literally angry at its denouement. Just.. shit.
- 0gs 5mo ago[flagged]
- whywhywhywhy 5mo agoWho would have thought an auteur would be a fully formed and flawed person where flaws may be as extreme as their talent. It’s almost as if creativity is connected to emotions, ideology and experience or something.
- 0gs 5mo agoeveryone, i think. doesn't mean auteurs have to make movies glorifying their flaws without a trace of introspection for 20+ years.
- falcor84 5mo agoI suppose that's not what you meant, but I love the idea of "Lars Von Trier" as a persona being good cinema. At the very least, it made me understand that I need him to appear as himself in the next Death Stranding game.
- artyom 5mo agoAgreed. Also Lars Von Trier is objectively not involved in this (only in Dogma 95, which this is "based on").
- mnewme 5mo agoThere is great cinema today, sadly a lot of great movies lack proper distribution. Go to film festivals, the quality of movies is only increasing
- ramon156 5mo agoThere is a lot of good cinema out there, it's just not at your fingertips. I too have become too lazy to look further than my nose's length.
- AlecSchueler 5mo agoThere's even some good stuff in the big cinemas. Barbie was excellent for example.
- artyom 5mo agoSame as with the "good internet". It's still out there, only under layers and layers of mediocre and/or terrible stuff nobody has the time to go through.
- leopld 5mo agoName a movie that’s your reference of good cinema
- artyom 5mo agoInland Empire
- mr_mitm 5mo agoInteresting that they only have one rule in common with the predecessor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95
- flossly 5mo agoAnd no signatures in common. Also: how many films are still produced in line with Dogma 95?
- tweetle_beetle 5mo ago35 in total as of last year, with the most recent released in 2004 https://web.archive.org/web/20250215082603/http://www.dogme95.dk/dogme-films/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250215082603/http://www.dogme9...
- tweetle_beetle 5mo agoThat said, I'm not sure if new certifications are still being accepted. So there may have been uncertified Dogme95-compliant films made since that was never been in the official list.
- hau 5mo ago>The film must be shot where the narrative takes place. This one really stands out by exculding whole genres and not really adding anything interesting to work around.
- aetherspawn 5mo agoIt kind of protects against low budget sci-fi I guess, which could be a net good thing. Under the rules you could attempt to shoot Resident Alien, but not Star Trek.
- irdc 5mo agoI'm thinking you could shoot an awesome sci-fi thriller under these rules. Even one that includes space travel. Just don't have any of the narrative take place in space: have only one character off-planet and have them communicate via radio.
- jmusall 5mo agoI've seen good, low-budget indie sci-fi short films that would presumably meet all of the Dogma 25 rules. So I think it doesn't protect against this category of films and neither would that be a good thing anyways. It just requires creative solutions if you want to e.g. portrait space travel.
- irdc 5mo agoWhich genres would that be? One could also argue that certain genres simply won't ever work as an arthouse movie.
- RobotToaster 5mo ago> Which genres would that be? Space opera, high fantasy and bangsian fantasy are three that come to mind.
- irdc 5mo agoI could see bangsian fantasy work if the afterlife were to be located on earth (which opens up some narrative possibilities, though they're a bit unoriginal). The other two are predicated upon portraying their locations inauthentically, which conflicts with the rules Dogme 25 strives to follow.
- Hnrobert42 5mo agoWhat is happening? What is the difference between Dogma and Dogme? What is this site about?
- brazzy 5mo agoDogme is Danish, because it's a manifesto of a founded in Denmark - and it's basically an update of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95
- jffry 5mo ago"dogme" is the Danish, Norwegian, and French spelling of the word "dogma" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dogme https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dogme
- Hnrobert42 5mo agoOooh. That explains my friend named Mathilde. Nice. Thanks.
- maelito 5mo agoMy eyes are bleeding reading this CSS
- orangebread 5mo agoMy brain is bleeding after reading this strange ass manifesto.
- leshenka 5mo agoI believe red and black theme is an artistic choice. Sadly, readability suffers from this choice. Just making the text bold makes it a lot better while preserving its spirit.
- bdcravens 5mo agoThe same way that HN puts tags like [video] or [pdf] in titles, they should have something like [eyestab] for a site like that. I was so not ready for that visual assault.
- mayukh 5mo agoNothing like rules for spurring creativity. Waiting for the manual next.
- jedimastert 5mo ago> Nothing like rules for spurring creativity. I feel like it's pretty well known in creative spaces that constraints breed creativity.
- smcl 5mo agoDeliberately imposing constraints on yourself is actually a very well-established way to spur creativity and innovation. For example this movement was inspired by something similar from back in the 1990s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95
- coldtea 5mo agoCreative after creative and artist after artist has said pretty much that constraints and limitations indeed spur creatitivy...
- rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 5mo agoPretentious, pompous trash.
- RobotToaster 5mo agoI wonder if they would accept a CGI movie entirely set within a computer, nothing in the rules seem to prohibit it :).
- jedimastert 5mo agoI feel like people are reading this as "this is how the under signers think all movies should be made, and we are judging movies not made this way as a moral failing", when I think a better reading would be "as directors/film makers/story tellers, this is how we think we can maximize our own creativity and joy when we make movies".
- jedimastert 5mo agoSo this is my art degree coming out, but I feel like invoking the name of Dogma 95 and the "vow of chastity" without what appears to be any of the original people involved or blessing feels a little lame, especially when the actual rules are pretty different from the original. At least, I don't see any indication of like a real personal connection to the original. I feel like they probably should have come up with a different name and just noted the connection in the manifesto
- TrevorFSmith 5mo agoI maybe shouldn't judge their ideas about film by their choice of illegible background and text colors, but I do.
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