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Still being studied, but the idea that it’s safe seems to be a very odd default. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/e-cigarettes/health-effects.html https://www.cdc.g

by dangus 5mo ago

Still being studied, but the idea that it’s safe seems to be a very odd default. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/e-cigarettes/health-effects.html https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/e-cigarettes/health-effects.html Why would your default assumption be that putting foreign (and poorly regulated) substances into your lungs is more likely than not safe? This is especially true since it’s a drug that doesn’t even have much claim to fame for positive recreational or medicinal benefits.

JuniperMesos 5mo ago
The vast majority of that CDC information page is about the health effects of nicotine itself. There's a relative lack of specific information about the health risks of the vapor. "Cancer-causing chemicals" is vague (I live in California, I see prop 65 signs all over the place, I ignore them like every good Californian). "Heavy metals" is also vague - is the amount of tin that I might inhale via vaping actually a problem? Is it significantly more than if I lived in an area with a tin mine or something? I'm not claiming that vaping is safe in some absolute sense, it wouldn't be surprising if there are some meaningful health risks. I personally do not vape myself because the times I've tried it, I've found getting the vapor into my lungs to be very uncomfortable. But it does seem like it's a strict health improvement over tobacco smoke, given that the CDC can't articulate a specific harm to the lungs caused by vaping.
- dangus 5mo ago
  Did you scroll down at all? I’m counting at least 5 risks that are not nicotine.
jpadkins 5mo ago
vapor has been used for medicine delivery for a long time, especially for patients who can't swallow pills. Also gov regulation is not the only form of regulation. Fear of getting sued by your customers into bankruptcy is an effective regulation on putting harmful substances into your vape.
- dangus 5mo ago
  > Fear of getting sued by your customers into bankruptcy is an effective regulation on putting harmful substances into your vape. Not really: https://mjalterlaw.com/the-ford-pinto-memo-the-cost-to-repair-vs-the-cost-of-paying-injured-victims/ https://mjalterlaw.com/the-ford-pinto-memo-the-cost-to-repai...

by dangus 5mo ago

JuniperMesos 5mo ago

The vast majority of that CDC information page is about the health effects of nicotine itself. There's a relative lack of specific information about the health risks of the vapor. "Cancer-causing chemicals" is vague (I live in California, I see prop 65 signs all over the place, I ignore them like every good Californian). "Heavy metals" is also vague - is the amount of tin that I might inhale via vaping actually a problem? Is it significantly more than if I lived in an area with a tin mine or something? I'm not claiming that vaping is safe in some absolute sense, it wouldn't be surprising if there are some meaningful health risks. I personally do not vape myself because the times I've tried it, I've found getting the vapor into my lungs to be very uncomfortable. But it does seem like it's a strict health improvement over tobacco smoke, given that the CDC can't articulate a specific harm to the lungs caused by vaping.

dangus 5mo ago
Did you scroll down at all? I’m counting at least 5 risks that are not nicotine.

jpadkins 5mo ago

vapor has been used for medicine delivery for a long time, especially for patients who can't swallow pills. Also gov regulation is not the only form of regulation. Fear of getting sued by your customers into bankruptcy is an effective regulation on putting harmful substances into your vape.

dangus 5mo ago
> Fear of getting sued by your customers into bankruptcy is an effective regulation on putting harmful substances into your vape. Not really: https://mjalterlaw.com/the-ford-pinto-memo-the-cost-to-repair-vs-the-cost-of-paying-injured-victims/ https://mjalterlaw.com/the-ford-pinto-memo-the-cost-to-repai...