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I still have my x61s, T460p, and currently running a T14 Gen 3. The x61s is just sitting there awaiting some future project. Hopefully it happens someday. The T

I still have my x61s, T460p, and currently running a T14 Gen 3. The x61s is just sitting there awaiting some future project. Hopefully it happens someday. The T460p has become a homelab server. I never should have sold my W500, that thing was awesome. I also have an 11e which is my burner Windows machine for doing sketchy stuff with cars.

iberator 5mo ago
you will NEVER understand it fully.... for you t460 is just a webserver, while for me t470s is my state of the art sole machine... IMO youu undervalue the magic and robustness of those laptops.
- jcgrillo 5mo ago
  I could have kept running the ca. 2015 T460p as my primary laptop--it has 32GB RAM, and decently powerful CPU and GPU--but the T14 is lighter, has much better battery life, generates less heat, etc. etc. Maybe I don't "get it" but I'm pretty happy with the fancy "new" machine.
  - mcpeepants 5mo ago
    I just replaced a T530 with a T14 gen 1 (R7 pro), and…yes. Super happy with the upgrade, for less than $300 mind you, even though I still love the old thickpad. It will live out its years in the rack, taking up an impressive amount of 1U.
    - ssl-3 5mo ago
      I'm still "stuck" on the T530 for what many probably think are dumb reasons: 1. It's black. I used a laptop that was silver and white for years; it sucked. Being boring, non-flashy, and non-reflective is important to me since I get to use this computer in places where the lighting is outside of my control. 2. It has a 15" screen. That's the right size for me. (I do not care that it is larger heavier and heavier than alternatives; that part isn't on my radar.) 3. The keyboard is centered. It accomplishes this in part by lacking a numeric keypad. (I do not use numeric keypads because I grew up with an 85-key XT keyboard that could have a numeric keypad, or cursor keys, but not both at once...and I chose cursor keys.) 4. Ports. I often connect my laptop to other things. That's an important part of how I find utility with laptop computers. 5. I found it very cheap on eBay with a housing that still looked very minty. It's been a fine machine. CPU and RAM are maxed out (amusingly, the cheapest way I found to get the best CPU was to buy the whole bottom half of another T530 that already had one installed, so now I've got spare parts). The cheap third-party battery works for most of a workday in testing, and I've never run out when away from an outlet. It's lovely. It's hard to find anything more-recent that meets these requirements, but maybe I'll be able to score a used Framework 16 or something at some point.

iberator 5mo ago

you will NEVER understand it fully.... for you t460 is just a webserver, while for me t470s is my state of the art sole machine... IMO youu undervalue the magic and robustness of those laptops.

jcgrillo 5mo ago
I could have kept running the ca. 2015 T460p as my primary laptop--it has 32GB RAM, and decently powerful CPU and GPU--but the T14 is lighter, has much better battery life, generates less heat, etc. etc. Maybe I don't "get it" but I'm pretty happy with the fancy "new" machine.
- mcpeepants 5mo ago
  I just replaced a T530 with a T14 gen 1 (R7 pro), and…yes. Super happy with the upgrade, for less than $300 mind you, even though I still love the old thickpad. It will live out its years in the rack, taking up an impressive amount of 1U.
  - ssl-3 5mo ago
    I'm still "stuck" on the T530 for what many probably think are dumb reasons: 1. It's black. I used a laptop that was silver and white for years; it sucked. Being boring, non-flashy, and non-reflective is important to me since I get to use this computer in places where the lighting is outside of my control. 2. It has a 15" screen. That's the right size for me. (I do not care that it is larger heavier and heavier than alternatives; that part isn't on my radar.) 3. The keyboard is centered. It accomplishes this in part by lacking a numeric keypad. (I do not use numeric keypads because I grew up with an 85-key XT keyboard that could have a numeric keypad, or cursor keys, but not both at once...and I chose cursor keys.) 4. Ports. I often connect my laptop to other things. That's an important part of how I find utility with laptop computers. 5. I found it very cheap on eBay with a housing that still looked very minty. It's been a fine machine. CPU and RAM are maxed out (amusingly, the cheapest way I found to get the best CPU was to buy the whole bottom half of another T530 that already had one installed, so now I've got spare parts). The cheap third-party battery works for most of a workday in testing, and I've never run out when away from an outlet. It's lovely. It's hard to find anything more-recent that meets these requirements, but maybe I'll be able to score a used Framework 16 or something at some point.