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> don't see fascist takeovers in the UK, France or Germany The horseshoe theory is in full swing lately, in UK after right wing libertarian rule came the left

by mrtksn 5mo ago

> don't see fascist takeovers in the UK, France or Germany The horseshoe theory is in full swing lately, in UK after right wing libertarian rule came the left wing labour and now it’s once again the right wingers. They again won’t solve anything and more swings will happen until someone realizes that it’s the US trade that isn’t working. The rest of Europe is similar, they just happen to have more damping as most have fractured parliaments with no one having majority but the general direction change is happening regardless. People aren’t going to be like “tough luck, we choose poorly to rely on US and we will be permanent underclass from now on”.

jmyeet 5mo ago
I just have to respond to this: I'm not sure how you meant this but, to be clear, horseshow theory is BS. For one thing, there's nothing remotely left wing about Starmer's Labor government. Labor is firmly a center-right party. So were the Blair and Brown governments. So we've had unbroken right-wing rule in the UK since Thatcher was elected almost 50 years ago. If Jeremy Corbyn had been elected, he may well have been a left-wing PM but he wasn't. Instead, the threat of that caused Labor insiders to engage in a vile character assassination scheme that brought Keir Starmer to power, all to support US imperialism. There's nothing remotely left-wing about that.
- mrtksn 5mo ago
  > There's nothing remotely left wing about Starmer's Labor government And that's why they lost support so quickly. Centrism does't work anymore and being slightly to the right for left wing voter base and the far right voter base its unacceptable. Frankly it isn't even right vs left, people don't realize that Lenin were right and then that Hitler was right every 2 years, its a different dynamic. Probably the best description is that they all want "Having the cake and eat it too", every few years someone comes up with an idea like we can have our cake and eat it too if we take immigrants, get rid of the immigrants, allow gay sex ban gay sex, increase tax decrease tax, increase regulation decrease regulations and so on.

by mrtksn 5mo ago

jmyeet 5mo ago

I just have to respond to this: I'm not sure how you meant this but, to be clear, horseshow theory is BS. For one thing, there's nothing remotely left wing about Starmer's Labor government. Labor is firmly a center-right party. So were the Blair and Brown governments. So we've had unbroken right-wing rule in the UK since Thatcher was elected almost 50 years ago. If Jeremy Corbyn had been elected, he may well have been a left-wing PM but he wasn't. Instead, the threat of that caused Labor insiders to engage in a vile character assassination scheme that brought Keir Starmer to power, all to support US imperialism. There's nothing remotely left-wing about that.

mrtksn 5mo ago
> There's nothing remotely left wing about Starmer's Labor government And that's why they lost support so quickly. Centrism does't work anymore and being slightly to the right for left wing voter base and the far right voter base its unacceptable. Frankly it isn't even right vs left, people don't realize that Lenin were right and then that Hitler was right every 2 years, its a different dynamic. Probably the best description is that they all want "Having the cake and eat it too", every few years someone comes up with an idea like we can have our cake and eat it too if we take immigrants, get rid of the immigrants, allow gay sex ban gay sex, increase tax decrease tax, increase regulation decrease regulations and so on.