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Flock cameras and the surveillance state generally speaking make me feel like a slave.
by new_account_100 5mo ago
Flock cameras and the surveillance state generally speaking make me feel like a slave.
- Quarrelsome 5mo ago[flagged]
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- new_account_100 5mo ago> imho its a choice to feel like a slave. Frankly, the reason I feel like a slave is that I have no agency over this perpetual surveillance. If you're saying that the people breaking the law and smashing the cameras are choosing not to be slaves then fair enough, tbh. I guess I'm choosing to stay a slave :/
- donkyrf 5mo agoYour statement is not only false, it's nonsensical.
- Quarrelsome 5mo agoNot seeing it myself, its a problem or its an opportunity. They can see you but you also get to see them. It can make you less safe or make you safe against oppression. You can record the oppression get it into the hands of journalists, etc. Mandatory police bodycams have done wonders for accountability.
- happytoexplain 5mo ago"It's a choice to feel like a slave/victim/etc" is a phrase born from legitimate psychological advice, but now is used 90% of the time as a "devil's platitude" (sounds like, "Just give up. It's inevitable, and you'll be happier.")
- new_account_100 5mo agoI think it's a fair comment in this case, given that the discussion is essentially about civil disobedience. In other words, I think it's worth mentioning that the (former) slaves who took the underground railroad were breaking the law by doing so.
- happytoexplain 5mo agoTrue, but that's not what "feel like a slave" means as an English phrase - i.e. the phrase does not mean, "feel like you're resisting like a slave", it's "feel like you're helpless like a slave". It's an insult meant to make you accept your conditions, not fight against them.
- new_account_100 5mo agoI'm the person who said it, and I explained what I meant. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm speaking from the perspective of an American worker. I feel that the relationship between capital and labor in the United States remains linked to slavery, even 150+ years after its formal abolition here.
- happytoexplain 5mo agoI'm referring to the phrase Quarrelsome used ("[it's a choice] to feel like a slave"), not your original usage. My criticism of Quarrelsome is that, in my opinion, "It's your choice to be a slave" means "resist"; while "it's your choice to feel like a slave" means "accept it". I felt you were being too charitable to them.
- new_account_100 5mo ago> My criticism of Quarrelsome is that, in my opinion, "It's your choice to be a slave" means "resist"; while "it's your choice to feel like a slave" means "accept it". I felt you were being too charitable to them. That was my initial reaction too, I was just choosing to be charitable
- Barbing 5mo agoIf I were a temporarily embarrassed billionaire I would agree
- elch 5mo agoWhat about registration plates? Do they make you feeling like a slave?
- new_account_100 5mo agoNot particularly, what about you?
- happytoexplain 5mo agoIf you won't form an argument illustrating how X is like Y, then try to resist simply stating that they are alike. It creates a wasteful, distracting fork in the conversation. Rhetorical analogies are lazy and almost always very shaky.
- rationalist 5mo agoPrior to Flock, no company was creating a vast surveillance network using my registration plates.
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