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Are they? I don't believe there's that big of a market for local AI. Most people don't care that much, and you'll most likely lose the advertising revenue.

GenerWork 5mo ago
>I don't believe there's that big of a market for local AI. Most people don't care that much, I agree that the market for local AI is basically limited to nerds at this point, but that's because nobody's really explained why local AI is a good thing and also because the vast majority of people need the $20 paid plan at most. How much time and money would it take to get something half as good as OpenAIs products running locally?
- mycall 5mo ago
  It will take another [human] generation before AI is well integrated into everyone's daily lives where people will expect a local model handling things for them. I don't think the killer app has arrived yet (OC is a hint of what is to come).
- SkiFire13 5mo ago
  > that's because nobody's really explained why local AI is a good thing There are a lot of good things that need to be explained to people, but nobody ever managed to. I don't think this will be any different. > because the vast majority of people need the $20 paid plan at most Exactly, people are not gonna invest time and money when there's already something else that satisfies their need. Local AI will need to be both better and more convenient in order to be adoped by the masses.
  - throaway198234 5mo ago
    Free is always better.
    - SkiFire13 5mo ago
      Linux is free too, but it hasn't replaced Windows despite lot of people explaining why it should be better. Moreover local AI is not free. You'll need proper hardware to run it which you have to pay extra for it.
      - throaway198234 5mo ago
        but Free Windows would outsell priced Windows if it were offered open source, a la LLMs
- datadrivenangel 5mo ago
  An M5 macbook pro running LM studio with Gemam4 or Qwen3.6 is basically the original GPT 3/ gpt3.5 chatgpt experience. So about $3000 usd
bsder 5mo ago
I agree that the vast majority of punters don't care about "local AI". However, if you can deliver 90% of the value of AI for 90% less cost, that is a really big incentive. Companies will spring up to fill that kind of gap. Nobody can undercut the big AI players right now because they are all over-funded by VC money. Once the frontier companies try to match cost to expense, suddenly they become very, very vulnerable.

GenerWork 5mo ago

>I don't believe there's that big of a market for local AI. Most people don't care that much, I agree that the market for local AI is basically limited to nerds at this point, but that's because nobody's really explained why local AI is a good thing and also because the vast majority of people need the $20 paid plan at most. How much time and money would it take to get something half as good as OpenAIs products running locally?

mycall 5mo ago
It will take another [human] generation before AI is well integrated into everyone's daily lives where people will expect a local model handling things for them. I don't think the killer app has arrived yet (OC is a hint of what is to come).
SkiFire13 5mo ago
> that's because nobody's really explained why local AI is a good thing There are a lot of good things that need to be explained to people, but nobody ever managed to. I don't think this will be any different. > because the vast majority of people need the $20 paid plan at most Exactly, people are not gonna invest time and money when there's already something else that satisfies their need. Local AI will need to be both better and more convenient in order to be adoped by the masses.
- throaway198234 5mo ago
  Free is always better.
  - SkiFire13 5mo ago
    Linux is free too, but it hasn't replaced Windows despite lot of people explaining why it should be better. Moreover local AI is not free. You'll need proper hardware to run it which you have to pay extra for it.
    - throaway198234 5mo ago
      but Free Windows would outsell priced Windows if it were offered open source, a la LLMs
datadrivenangel 5mo ago
An M5 macbook pro running LM studio with Gemam4 or Qwen3.6 is basically the original GPT 3/ gpt3.5 chatgpt experience. So about $3000 usd

bsder 5mo ago

I agree that the vast majority of punters don't care about "local AI". However, if you can deliver 90% of the value of AI for 90% less cost, that is a really big incentive. Companies will spring up to fill that kind of gap. Nobody can undercut the big AI players right now because they are all over-funded by VC money. Once the frontier companies try to match cost to expense, suddenly they become very, very vulnerable.