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Yea, I recently caught flu from someone else that "could not miss their work". So these things don't really apply well to the US at all.

by pixl97 6mo ago

mystraline 6mo ago
Yep. This is called "food service". Shit pay, no benefits, and managers who threaten to fire you if you dont show up. Sick? Puke in the bathroom. Whys this the case? Cause we Americans have garbage for labor laws. You can be fired for pretty much any reason. And you are NOT protected if youre sick. When I had to work food seevice, at starbucks, subway, random pizza chain, etc, I begrudgingly came in sick, infected LOADS of customers. My choice was to work, or get fired (or not fired but 0 hours for next 2 weeks on schedule as punishment). Who knows how many I got sick and potentially killed due to compromised immune systems. Im sure I did. This is the real, hidden external cost, of our unmitigated capitalism. People get sick and die for the reason of making the boss more money, and too fucking bad.
- pixl97 6mo ago
  >Cause we Americans have garbage for labor laws And healthcare being tied to "having a good enough job". But yea, it's a huge mess.
  - amanaplanacanal 6mo ago
    Divorcing health care from employment would be a wonderful change, but I don't see it ever happening. Employers love it because it makes employees fear for their job, and insurers love it because if everybody saw how much they were actually paying every month they would fight to change the system.
roryirvine 6mo ago
Was it actually flu, or just a bad cold? I've had flu twice, and both times I simply wouldn't have been able to leave the house no matter how much I wanted to - even just turning over in bed was a major effort! Would people not have spotted their shivering and sweating and sent them straight home again?
- globular-toast 6mo ago
  Influenza symptoms vary widely from person to person and strain to strain. All the way from symptomless to dead.
HDBaseT 6mo ago
The US has poor employee regulations though, most other well developed nations have figured out people being sick at work doesn't help. In Australia, full-time employees (38 hours or more a week) will grant you 10 sick days a year. You can use this at effectively any time (Some employers may request medical certificates for consecutive days) but when using it, you are paid your full normal rate for the hours you are away from work for. Once you run out of sick leave, you can then use "unpaid sick leave", which is exactly what you expect. https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/sick-and-carers-leave https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/sick-and-carers-leave

Yea, I recently caught flu from someone else that "could not miss their work". So these things don't really apply well to the US at all.

by pixl97 6mo ago

Yea, I recently caught flu from someone else that "could not miss their work". So these things don't really apply well to the US at all.

mystraline 6mo ago

Yep. This is called "food service". Shit pay, no benefits, and managers who threaten to fire you if you dont show up. Sick? Puke in the bathroom. Whys this the case? Cause we Americans have garbage for labor laws. You can be fired for pretty much any reason. And you are NOT protected if youre sick. When I had to work food seevice, at starbucks, subway, random pizza chain, etc, I begrudgingly came in sick, infected LOADS of customers. My choice was to work, or get fired (or not fired but 0 hours for next 2 weeks on schedule as punishment). Who knows how many I got sick and potentially killed due to compromised immune systems. Im sure I did. This is the real, hidden external cost, of our unmitigated capitalism. People get sick and die for the reason of making the boss more money, and too fucking bad.

pixl97 6mo ago
>Cause we Americans have garbage for labor laws And healthcare being tied to "having a good enough job". But yea, it's a huge mess.
- amanaplanacanal 6mo ago
  Divorcing health care from employment would be a wonderful change, but I don't see it ever happening. Employers love it because it makes employees fear for their job, and insurers love it because if everybody saw how much they were actually paying every month they would fight to change the system.

roryirvine 6mo ago

Was it actually flu, or just a bad cold? I've had flu twice, and both times I simply wouldn't have been able to leave the house no matter how much I wanted to - even just turning over in bed was a major effort! Would people not have spotted their shivering and sweating and sent them straight home again?

globular-toast 6mo ago
Influenza symptoms vary widely from person to person and strain to strain. All the way from symptomless to dead.

HDBaseT 6mo ago

The US has poor employee regulations though, most other well developed nations have figured out people being sick at work doesn't help. In Australia, full-time employees (38 hours or more a week) will grant you 10 sick days a year. You can use this at effectively any time (Some employers may request medical certificates for consecutive days) but when using it, you are paid your full normal rate for the hours you are away from work for. Once you run out of sick leave, you can then use "unpaid sick leave", which is exactly what you expect. https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/sick-and-carers-leave https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/sick-and-carers-leave