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I will do everything in my power to keep the tech bros out of my children's life. Yes, that includes being a responsible parent. It also includes societal norms

I will do everything in my power to keep the tech bros out of my children's life. Yes, that includes being a responsible parent. It also includes societal norms being established. Just as was done for alcohol, nicotine, movies, porn mags ect. I guarantee you are not as dedicated as me trying to protect my kids, so there will be age gates, and that includes VPNs. Everyone knows VPNs are only used for getting shit for free, so there is also a pretty powerful corporate interest to lock them down. In the case of the "corporate content provides" vs the "tech bros", the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I'll take a win however it comes. Mozilla have picked a battle that will kill off Firefox, I am now not longer interested in recommending or using it. I'd bet their user base skews to older people, more likely to be parents.

Ylpertnodi 5mo ago
>Everyone knows VPNs are only used for getting shit for free, I don't use my vpn for 'shit for free'.
maccard 5mo ago
> Mozilla have picked a battle that will kill off Firefox, I am now not longer interested in recommending or using it Presumably your support is for a browser developed by Google instead, as they are clearly not interested in surveillance or being in your children’s life?
- pocksuppet 5mo ago
  Firefox forks are available, and will probably last long than Mozilla.
  - maccard 5mo ago
    And exist because of the amount of work Mozilla does in keeping the browser up to date.
    - pocksuppet 5mo ago
      How many Firefox developers are actual Mozilla employees?
      - maccard 5mo ago
        No affiliation with Mozilla, just a very long time FF user. They don't release this info so I don't know. That said, the best info I can find is here [0]. It claims that 87% of Firefox's contributions are from "mozilla". Red Hat also contribute. If you dig into some of Mozilla's outgoings, a lot of their non-employee outgoing spend is going on paying other vendors to work on their software. At least some of these looks like "paying people to work on firefox but not mozilla employees" - maybe it's EOR/contracting stuff. There is a huge outlier in André Bargull too, but it looks like as far as this analysis is concerned mozilla are absolutely integral to the current state of FF. [0] https://bkardell.com/blog/2023-Mid-Season-Power-Rankings.html https://bkardell.com/blog/2023-Mid-Season-Power-Rankings.htm...
twobitshifter 5mo ago
every corporation is running a vpn network. Every router manufacturer builds them into the firmware so you can safely access your home network. there’s a much bigger use case than free stuff.
- tardedmeme 5mo ago
  I think we both know perfectly well that anti-VPN laws are not "make wireguard the protocol illegal" laws but rather "make it illegal for the websites you visit to not know your identity" laws.

Ylpertnodi 5mo ago

>Everyone knows VPNs are only used for getting shit for free, I don't use my vpn for 'shit for free'.

maccard 5mo ago

> Mozilla have picked a battle that will kill off Firefox, I am now not longer interested in recommending or using it Presumably your support is for a browser developed by Google instead, as they are clearly not interested in surveillance or being in your children’s life?

pocksuppet 5mo ago
Firefox forks are available, and will probably last long than Mozilla.
- maccard 5mo ago
  And exist because of the amount of work Mozilla does in keeping the browser up to date.
  - pocksuppet 5mo ago
    How many Firefox developers are actual Mozilla employees?
    - maccard 5mo ago
      No affiliation with Mozilla, just a very long time FF user. They don't release this info so I don't know. That said, the best info I can find is here [0]. It claims that 87% of Firefox's contributions are from "mozilla". Red Hat also contribute. If you dig into some of Mozilla's outgoings, a lot of their non-employee outgoing spend is going on paying other vendors to work on their software. At least some of these looks like "paying people to work on firefox but not mozilla employees" - maybe it's EOR/contracting stuff. There is a huge outlier in André Bargull too, but it looks like as far as this analysis is concerned mozilla are absolutely integral to the current state of FF. [0] https://bkardell.com/blog/2023-Mid-Season-Power-Rankings.html https://bkardell.com/blog/2023-Mid-Season-Power-Rankings.htm...

twobitshifter 5mo ago

every corporation is running a vpn network. Every router manufacturer builds them into the firmware so you can safely access your home network. there’s a much bigger use case than free stuff.

tardedmeme 5mo ago
I think we both know perfectly well that anti-VPN laws are not "make wireguard the protocol illegal" laws but rather "make it illegal for the websites you visit to not know your identity" laws.