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Yep yep yep.. that explains it. Not the software fault as I original suspected (at least in the break-jamming case). What I "felt" like jammed was probably just

Yep yep yep.. that explains it. Not the software fault as I original suspected (at least in the break-jamming case). What I "felt" like jammed was probably just that vacuum system not helping, but since it happened for the first time (with me), and so abruptly, it felt like the brakes were jammed. But, the worrying, and a lot more scarier part is that this was not me accidentally leaving the car in accessory/power-on mode. The engine cut out while I was driving, which is itself a serious fault. Regarding the steering wheel case, it still feels like electronic/software fault since the car was actually reversing on engine power. But, similar to the first case, most likely it was also not jammed, rather, i lost the power steering assist, and hence, it "felt" like jammed since it happened first time to me. Im from India btw and the car in question is a 10+ year old Maruti Suzuki Swift Dzire. --- Summary: 1. Break issue: vacuum assist lost due to engine shutting off (by itself) which "felt" like it "jammed" the breaks, but, most probably had just gotten super stiff instead. 2. Steering wheel: Still looks like a software/electronic fault, but, similar to the break case, it "felt" like jammed.. but, it had just gotten super stiff. This all, however, is still so wrong. In either of the cases the fault was not mine, yet, I was put in a situation that could have been very serious.

freakynit 5mo ago
So I researched a bit more on that break thingy... and just learned that this assist provides anywhere form 4x to 10x the assist. And without it, you would literally have to stand on the breaks with full body weight to have a similar effect. Wow!!
- Barbing 5mo ago
  Funfact4life, even with modern cars in emergency braking scenarios you _still_ want to STAND on that brake pedal with all your weight! ...ooh, a mnemonic: "STOMP, STAY and STEER". (Stomp brake, Stay stomped, Steer around obstacles while pressing brake hard.) Even if it vibrates! [Grand]pa had to "pump" his brakes (on/off/on/off), we have it easier :)
  - defrost 5mo ago
    > Steer around obstacles while pressing brake hard That seems like a good way to flip a car or truck. Also runs counter to the advice that's given for surviving a sudden kangaroo on road at night incident .. for the past 60+ years. eg: Don’t swerve Most severe crashes involving an animal occur when the driver veers off the road, and hits something else instead. What’s more, the animal is just as likely to flee in the direction you’re steering. Brake in a straight line The only thing worse than swerving, is swerving with locked up tyres. Keeping a straight-line trajectory while you hit the brakes will allow you to reduce speed quickly, then – if the animal still hasn’t moved and you’ve reached a safe speed – you can steer around. ~ https://www.isuzu.com.au/news/news-articles/how-to-avoid-a-kangaroo-collision/ https://www.isuzu.com.au/news/news-articles/how-to-avoid-a-k... and 6. Slow it down, don’t swerve ~ https://www.huddleinsurance.com/post/kangaroos-australian-roads-8-ways-to-stay-safe-avoid-kangaroo-car-accidents https://www.huddleinsurance.com/post/kangaroos-australian-ro...
    - tmtvl 5mo ago
      I believe Barbing is saying to start braking and if you haven't stopped when you reach the obstacle, to keep the brake pressed hard while steering around it. That said, it's also important to manage wheel and/or brake lock-up if either happens.
      - Barbing 5mo ago
        You got it! Interpreted from https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/education/articles/driving-with-abs-stomp-stay-and-steer-8KKtGpL3gFIkuvXy/ https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/education/articles... Hope I conveyed accurately. Video in sibling comment shows in practice.
    - Barbing 5mo ago
      Steer vs. swerve nuance? From your quote, “you can steer around.” - probably thinking like this stomp stay steer video (three minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBvV_kE6kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBvV_kE6kg Have heard in the states: “Smaller than a deer, don’t veer”
foobarbecue 5mo ago
One more bit of info you might find helpful: the word is written "brake," not "break." We share a weird language.

freakynit 5mo ago

So I researched a bit more on that break thingy... and just learned that this assist provides anywhere form 4x to 10x the assist. And without it, you would literally have to stand on the breaks with full body weight to have a similar effect. Wow!!

Barbing 5mo ago
Funfact4life, even with modern cars in emergency braking scenarios you _still_ want to STAND on that brake pedal with all your weight! ...ooh, a mnemonic: "STOMP, STAY and STEER". (Stomp brake, Stay stomped, Steer around obstacles while pressing brake hard.) Even if it vibrates! [Grand]pa had to "pump" his brakes (on/off/on/off), we have it easier :)
- defrost 5mo ago
  > Steer around obstacles while pressing brake hard That seems like a good way to flip a car or truck. Also runs counter to the advice that's given for surviving a sudden kangaroo on road at night incident .. for the past 60+ years. eg: Don’t swerve Most severe crashes involving an animal occur when the driver veers off the road, and hits something else instead. What’s more, the animal is just as likely to flee in the direction you’re steering. Brake in a straight line The only thing worse than swerving, is swerving with locked up tyres. Keeping a straight-line trajectory while you hit the brakes will allow you to reduce speed quickly, then – if the animal still hasn’t moved and you’ve reached a safe speed – you can steer around. ~ https://www.isuzu.com.au/news/news-articles/how-to-avoid-a-kangaroo-collision/ https://www.isuzu.com.au/news/news-articles/how-to-avoid-a-k... and 6. Slow it down, don’t swerve ~ https://www.huddleinsurance.com/post/kangaroos-australian-roads-8-ways-to-stay-safe-avoid-kangaroo-car-accidents https://www.huddleinsurance.com/post/kangaroos-australian-ro...
  - tmtvl 5mo ago
    I believe Barbing is saying to start braking and if you haven't stopped when you reach the obstacle, to keep the brake pressed hard while steering around it. That said, it's also important to manage wheel and/or brake lock-up if either happens.
    - Barbing 5mo ago
      You got it! Interpreted from https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/education/articles/driving-with-abs-stomp-stay-and-steer-8KKtGpL3gFIkuvXy/ https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/education/articles... Hope I conveyed accurately. Video in sibling comment shows in practice.
  - Barbing 5mo ago
    Steer vs. swerve nuance? From your quote, “you can steer around.” - probably thinking like this stomp stay steer video (three minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBvV_kE6kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBvV_kE6kg Have heard in the states: “Smaller than a deer, don’t veer”

foobarbecue 5mo ago

One more bit of info you might find helpful: the word is written "brake," not "break." We share a weird language.