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Tesla's setup are a bunch of desks with steering wheels crammed together in a normal call center [0]. Waymo doesn't do teleoperation, but other companies exist

Tesla's setup are a bunch of desks with steering wheels crammed together in a normal call center [0]. Waymo doesn't do teleoperation, but other companies exist that have like Vay. Compare their setup [1]. [0] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuE3ie2WcAAyeWs?format=jpg&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuE3ie2WcAAyeWs?format=jpg&name=... [1] https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/6828f0b632da09101cb37716/Remotely-Driven-Car-Startup-Vay-Launches-Service-On-Vegas-Streets/0x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=480 https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/6828f0...

whynotmaybe 5mo ago
It must be hard to resist to drive the GTA way with such a setup
- xgkickt 5mo ago
  They’re called off ramps for a reason right?
jnsie 5mo ago
I assume/hope that Tesla teleoperators are required to have drivers licenses in the states in which the cars they are operating are located?
- FireBeyond 5mo ago
  Given that some of these teleoperators are in the Philipines, and Tesla's sterling reputation for adhering to regulation and laws, I'm going to hazard my own guess.
  - dzhiurgis 5mo ago
    Why the blatant lies tho? Waymo people are in Philipines. And when power went out in SF entire Waymo fleet died too because teleops couldn't take over... https://www.techspot.com/news/111233-waymo-admits-autopilot-often-guys-philippines.html https://www.techspot.com/news/111233-waymo-admits-autopilot-...
nomel 5mo ago
Waymo does do teleoperation [1], and they defend its use [2]. Human fallback isn't something to be ashamed about. AGI doesn't exist at the moment. [1] https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ [2] https://www.reuters.com/technology/waymo-defends-use-remote-assistance-workers-robotaxi-operations-2026-02-17/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/waymo-defends-use-remote-...
- lern_too_spel 5mo ago
  The second paragraph of your link says Waymo does not do teleoperation. "Much like phone-a-friend, when the Waymo vehicle encounters a particular situation on the road, the autonomous driver can reach out to a human fleet response agent for additional information to contextualize its environment. The Waymo Driver does not rely solely on the inputs it receives from the fleet response agent and it is in control of the vehicle at all times." This is different from a remote operator directly controlling accelerator, steering, and brakes.
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- AlotOfReading 5mo ago
  That's not teleoperation. Teleoperation has a human directly in the control loop, so latency and stability of the connection directly impacts the vehicle system's ability to maintain safety, because the input has to go vehicle<->network<->human to produce an output. What those blog posts are talking about is a different strategy called remote assistance where the vehicle remains the only thing in the control loop, but a human provides guidance to help the computer navigate itself. This makes the latency and stability of the connection much less important for maintaining safety. It's not unheard of for companies in the industry that use remote assistance to also have an local option for remote control (for things like lot operations and vehicle rescue events), but that's not part of routine on-road operations and it's usually limited to a <5mph limp mode where the operator is physically present.
- UltraSane 5mo ago

whynotmaybe 5mo ago

It must be hard to resist to drive the GTA way with such a setup

xgkickt 5mo ago
They’re called off ramps for a reason right?

jnsie 5mo ago

I assume/hope that Tesla teleoperators are required to have drivers licenses in the states in which the cars they are operating are located?

FireBeyond 5mo ago
Given that some of these teleoperators are in the Philipines, and Tesla's sterling reputation for adhering to regulation and laws, I'm going to hazard my own guess.
- dzhiurgis 5mo ago
  Why the blatant lies tho? Waymo people are in Philipines. And when power went out in SF entire Waymo fleet died too because teleops couldn't take over... https://www.techspot.com/news/111233-waymo-admits-autopilot-often-guys-philippines.html https://www.techspot.com/news/111233-waymo-admits-autopilot-...

nomel 5mo ago

Waymo does do teleoperation [1], and they defend its use [2]. Human fallback isn't something to be ashamed about. AGI doesn't exist at the moment. [1] https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ [2] https://www.reuters.com/technology/waymo-defends-use-remote-assistance-workers-robotaxi-operations-2026-02-17/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/waymo-defends-use-remote-...

lern_too_spel 5mo ago
The second paragraph of your link says Waymo does not do teleoperation. "Much like phone-a-friend, when the Waymo vehicle encounters a particular situation on the road, the autonomous driver can reach out to a human fleet response agent for additional information to contextualize its environment. The Waymo Driver does not rely solely on the inputs it receives from the fleet response agent and it is in control of the vehicle at all times." This is different from a remote operator directly controlling accelerator, steering, and brakes.
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AlotOfReading 5mo ago
That's not teleoperation. Teleoperation has a human directly in the control loop, so latency and stability of the connection directly impacts the vehicle system's ability to maintain safety, because the input has to go vehicle<->network<->human to produce an output. What those blog posts are talking about is a different strategy called remote assistance where the vehicle remains the only thing in the control loop, but a human provides guidance to help the computer navigate itself. This makes the latency and stability of the connection much less important for maintaining safety. It's not unheard of for companies in the industry that use remote assistance to also have an local option for remote control (for things like lot operations and vehicle rescue events), but that's not part of routine on-road operations and it's usually limited to a <5mph limp mode where the operator is physically present.
UltraSane 5mo ago