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How are you judging the impact of things on your gut/microbiome?
by swores 5mo ago
How are you judging the impact of things on your gut/microbiome?
- hapidjus 5mo agoToilet visits?
- jodrellblank 5mo agoHow is one judging a "gut ecosystem collapse" from toilet visits?
- kjkjadksj 5mo agoLoose and unsatisfying stool?
- krisoft 5mo agoHow do you know that is a “gut ecosystem collapse” as opposed to hypermotility? Or an overgrowth of the gut ecosystem? Or a problem with the intestinal lining? Observing that if you eat/drink something specific then you get the shits is valid. Concluding that it is due to a specific mechanism is not valid unless you have something objective like a test supporting that. It’s like if your train is late and you just conclude that it must be because the steam condenser’s gasket is leaking based on nothing. Maybe true, or maybe the conductor broke his leg, or there is a signaling failure.
- DANmode 5mo agoUmmm…because all of those symptoms you listed are symptoms of gut dysbiosis…? Why do you need to know what the mechanism is to avoid mistakes? - if something fucks you, don’t do it. Encourage others to do the same. Not a controversial take!
- pohl 5mo ago[Gut Flora Summit banner] “But what if it’s a big hoax and we create solid stools for nothing?”
- DANmode 5mo agoSeriously, though! This demand for peer-reviewed evidence in place of observation of known and basic mechanisms is out of control.
- jodrellblank 5mo agoIf you drop an ACME 100Kg anvil on your foot, you get a broken foot, and you can conclude "this fucked me, I won't do it again". But if you say "I suffered foot ecosystem collapse" and people ask you what that means and how you identified it, whinging about how people should stop asking stupid questions because all bad things are bad therefore they must be the same thing, is not helping anyone.
- DANmode 5mo agoExcept, you intentionally replied up here, and not down below, where you’d have to reply to “well-understood and basic mechanisms” being ignored. Including the ones we know inhibit a healthy diverse microbiome! Sticking with your chosen example: If you lean an anvil on your foot, and start suffering from poor circulation or discoloration of the foot, remove the anvil.
- DANmode 5mo ago> therefore they must be the same thing Also, this bit is a non-factual read (don’t put words in my mouth, mate, I choose them carefully). An uncharitable, bad-faith interpretation at best.
- malfist 5mo agoWith IBS-D every meal can result in a loose and unsatisfying stool output! Don't ask me how I know. GLP-1s actually make a hell of a difference for me.