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That’s a risk, but for most cases likely not the most material up front risk - there’s a million ways for the spooks to enter the building. TBH, all of these e

That’s a risk, but for most cases likely not the most material up front risk - there’s a million ways for the spooks to enter the building. TBH, all of these entities are likely actively penetrated by US, Israeli and Russian human assets. You don’t need esoteric knowledge of CPU flaws or whatever if the dude holding the keys works for you.

spwa4 5mo ago
You can prevent that by making sure these people have a lot to lose. Which means you start by paying them enough money. Wait, European you said? Never mind. Only politicians and the very rich deserve money is the law here. The owners of European clouds are people who were very, very wealthy before they ever started doing cloud (Xavier Niel, the Klaba Family in France, Hetzner (is also a German family name), Deutsche Telecom/Swisscom/A1 Telecom) and none of them have a reputation of decently paying anyone, whether we're talking software developers, system administrators, SREs, security guards, managers, ... and, of those, only Xavier Niel was not swimming in money when he was born (he was still very comfortable at a time when that was not at all common) As are most politicians. For example, Ursula von der Leyen is a member of a wealthy German family that was part of the aristocracy in Germany. Her family's money survived WW2 in Germany (everyone in Germany and North West Europe knows what that means, and it's nothing good). Her ancestors belonged to the nobility of the Free Imperial city of Bremen, allied to the Holy Roman Empire. Nobody in her family has ever lacked for money for 20 generations.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  > Her ancestors belonged to the nobility of the Free Imperial city of Bremen, allied to the Holy Roman Empire. I've heard of people holding long grudges before but holy shit, that's quite a reach even for HN, that's over 200 years ago! :D
  - spwa4 5mo ago
    The point is that, like everyone else at the helm of the European commission, she and her family going back a LONG way, are part of the very, very rich. She has a coat of arms, for example. And she's not even the only one in the European commission. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leyen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leyen It's a commentary on social mobility. Oh, and actually her family has been rich for over 400 years for sure, and probably double that. One thing I always found a big positive on America is that a lot of the "American elite" was born, perhaps not poor, but also not rich, and they are never part of a dynasty that has been rich since the dark ages. Trump's grandfather was at best middle class. Biden's parents were broke when Joe Biden was little. Obama comes from what is probably a broken home. The contrast with Europe is enormous. By contrast, it often looks, in Europe, that the only possible way to become rich is to marry into a rich family.

spwa4 5mo ago

You can prevent that by making sure these people have a lot to lose. Which means you start by paying them enough money. Wait, European you said? Never mind. Only politicians and the very rich deserve money is the law here. The owners of European clouds are people who were very, very wealthy before they ever started doing cloud (Xavier Niel, the Klaba Family in France, Hetzner (is also a German family name), Deutsche Telecom/Swisscom/A1 Telecom) and none of them have a reputation of decently paying anyone, whether we're talking software developers, system administrators, SREs, security guards, managers, ... and, of those, only Xavier Niel was not swimming in money when he was born (he was still very comfortable at a time when that was not at all common) As are most politicians. For example, Ursula von der Leyen is a member of a wealthy German family that was part of the aristocracy in Germany. Her family's money survived WW2 in Germany (everyone in Germany and North West Europe knows what that means, and it's nothing good). Her ancestors belonged to the nobility of the Free Imperial city of Bremen, allied to the Holy Roman Empire. Nobody in her family has ever lacked for money for 20 generations.

embedding-shape 5mo ago
> Her ancestors belonged to the nobility of the Free Imperial city of Bremen, allied to the Holy Roman Empire. I've heard of people holding long grudges before but holy shit, that's quite a reach even for HN, that's over 200 years ago! :D
- spwa4 5mo ago
  The point is that, like everyone else at the helm of the European commission, she and her family going back a LONG way, are part of the very, very rich. She has a coat of arms, for example. And she's not even the only one in the European commission. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leyen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leyen It's a commentary on social mobility. Oh, and actually her family has been rich for over 400 years for sure, and probably double that. One thing I always found a big positive on America is that a lot of the "American elite" was born, perhaps not poor, but also not rich, and they are never part of a dynasty that has been rich since the dark ages. Trump's grandfather was at best middle class. Biden's parents were broke when Joe Biden was little. Obama comes from what is probably a broken home. The contrast with Europe is enormous. By contrast, it often looks, in Europe, that the only possible way to become rich is to marry into a rich family.