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> The world is obviously better of without drugs, You slip such a confident assertion in there seemingly without justification. Do you think (for example) that

> The world is obviously better of without drugs, You slip such a confident assertion in there seemingly without justification. Do you think (for example) that the world would be better off without alcohol? I certainly don't. Everything has downsides; that doesn't on its own justify eliminating it. It's analogous to the adage that the most secure computer is the one encased in a block of cement so as to render it entirely unusable.

cyberpunk 6mo ago
The world would unambiguously be better off without alcohol.
- CuriouslyC 6mo ago
  Tell me you have/had an alcoholic parent without telling me.
  - cyberpunk 6mo ago
    Nope, parents didn’t drink either; but you do you. Perhaps you’d be able to cope with life better if you weren’t so dependant on self medicating with harmful intoxicants and threatened by any statements against them.
    - CuriouslyC 6mo ago
      You 100% have a religious or moral compulsion to make these comments. Just a heads up, it comes off as really assholish, and I'm guessing it's making your social interactions worse, unless you live in a monestary.
tomjen3 6mo ago
I believe the world would be better of without alcohol for consumption, yes. The only real benefits are not being the one outside the group, and the downsides include liver damage, social damage, massively higher risk for falling, drunk driving,... More to the point, alcohol would never be permitted if it was invented today. Marijuana might.
- fc417fc802 6mo ago
  You left out the most important benefit IMO. People enjoy the effects it has. Instead you're making out like it serves no purpose. > More to the point, alcohol would never be permitted if it was invented today. Marijuana might. Isn't that circular reasoning? We know the world is better off without it because it would run afoul of the current regulatory regime. It would run afoul of the current regulatory regime because we know the world is better off without things like that.

cyberpunk 6mo ago

The world would unambiguously be better off without alcohol.

CuriouslyC 6mo ago
Tell me you have/had an alcoholic parent without telling me.
- cyberpunk 6mo ago
  Nope, parents didn’t drink either; but you do you. Perhaps you’d be able to cope with life better if you weren’t so dependant on self medicating with harmful intoxicants and threatened by any statements against them.
  - CuriouslyC 6mo ago
    You 100% have a religious or moral compulsion to make these comments. Just a heads up, it comes off as really assholish, and I'm guessing it's making your social interactions worse, unless you live in a monestary.

tomjen3 6mo ago

I believe the world would be better of without alcohol for consumption, yes. The only real benefits are not being the one outside the group, and the downsides include liver damage, social damage, massively higher risk for falling, drunk driving,... More to the point, alcohol would never be permitted if it was invented today. Marijuana might.

fc417fc802 6mo ago
You left out the most important benefit IMO. People enjoy the effects it has. Instead you're making out like it serves no purpose. > More to the point, alcohol would never be permitted if it was invented today. Marijuana might. Isn't that circular reasoning? We know the world is better off without it because it would run afoul of the current regulatory regime. It would run afoul of the current regulatory regime because we know the world is better off without things like that.