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You're describing Corporatist Libertarians. Traditional Libertarians: No organization (government or otherwise) should be large enough or powerful enough to i
by hedora 5mo ago
You're describing Corporatist Libertarians.
Traditional Libertarians: No organization (government or otherwise) should be large enough or powerful enough to infringe on anyone's liberties.
Corporatist Libertarians: No government should be powerful enough to infringe on the liberties of corporations.
Corporatism has taken over about 50% of the Democrat, Republican and Libertarian parties. They're what people usually mean when they say "moderate" in the US, and why no branches of the federal government have an approval rating above 33%. It's also why things are going downhill so fast: It doesn't matter which party is in power, even if they've got a filibuster proof majority and all three branches in their pocket. Their corporate faction will still be powerful enough to block progressive and populist legislation.
- triceratops 5mo ago> Traditional Libertarians: No organization (government or otherwise) should be large enough or powerful enough to infringe on anyone's liberties. But how?
- hedora 5mo agoOne easy way: Limit the size of organizations + governments, and ban border control. Don't like San Francisco? Move to LA or Sac, and you get a completely different government. Don't like Meta or Fox News? No worries, they would have been broken up at 1% their current size.
- vel0city 5mo agoBut one or two people and petty cash can be enough to infringe on the rights of dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of people.
- hedora 5mo agoThat's 3-7 orders of magnitude less than what the current resident of the white house has achieved, depending on how you count. Also, in your scenario, a half dozen or so people could probably take care of the one or two problematic people. There's also a lot of common law around what "cannot infringe on others rights" means, going back 100's of years. My right to infringe on your rights is not included in the set of rights that phrases like that refer to.
- vel0city 5mo ago> That's 3-7 orders of magnitude less than what the current resident of the white house has achieved, depending on how you count. I agree with this. However, the standard was: > No organization (government or otherwise) should be large enough or powerful enough to infringe on anyone's liberties No organization should be big enough to trample on anyone's rights. You said that's an easy standard to meet. Seems downright impossible to me. > a half dozen or so people could probably take care of the one or two problematic people Cool, vigilante justice.