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When the damage is already done?

shimman 5mo ago
It's okay, as the on-going damage continues Americans tend to be well armed enough to go on a few rampages here and there.
- hgoel 5mo ago
  Americans are very good at talking tough like that, only to use their arms against innocent randos.
  - shimman 5mo ago
    That's the point. Society suffers and continues to suffers while the elites run havoc.
philipallstar 5mo ago
That is how everyone decision works, yes. That's why you want limited government. Voting where you can't vote with your money is a very low-quality, delayed signal.
- tech_ken 5mo ago
  If you assume that decision makers operate entirely in silo from their constituents then yes, that's how this works. Howver if you are operating in the normal mode of democracy where decision makers consult impacted parties through town halls, solicited feedback, subcommittees, etc etc then there are ample opportunities to obtain high-quality, low-latency signals. "Voting with your money" is (IM personal O) a scapegoat for government leaders to avoid doing their due-diligence (not to mention the massive power imbalance that results from people with lots of money 'voting' way more than people with less money).
  - philipallstar 5mo ago
    > If you assume that decision makers operate entirely in silo from their constituents then yes, that's how this works. Most places have two parties, each of which has a position on several thousand issues. You have two choices: combination A of the several thousand issues, or combination B. You don't get to choose with any more granularity than that. > not to mention the massive power imbalance that results from people with lots of money 'voting' way more than people with less money This is a power rectification. If you have two streaming services and one is bad, that bad one will fairly quickly receive far less money as people vote with their wallets. That's not rich people with thousands of accounts "voting" for the winner, it's just a more direct system of people choosing with money. Politics has a far stronger link to an individual's money swaying decisions than that.

It's okay, as the on-going damage continues Americans tend to be well armed enough to go on a few rampages here and there.

hgoel 5mo ago
Americans are very good at talking tough like that, only to use their arms against innocent randos.
- shimman 5mo ago
  That's the point. Society suffers and continues to suffers while the elites run havoc.

philipallstar 5mo ago

That is how everyone decision works, yes. That's why you want limited government. Voting where you can't vote with your money is a very low-quality, delayed signal.

tech_ken 5mo ago
If you assume that decision makers operate entirely in silo from their constituents then yes, that's how this works. Howver if you are operating in the normal mode of democracy where decision makers consult impacted parties through town halls, solicited feedback, subcommittees, etc etc then there are ample opportunities to obtain high-quality, low-latency signals. "Voting with your money" is (IM personal O) a scapegoat for government leaders to avoid doing their due-diligence (not to mention the massive power imbalance that results from people with lots of money 'voting' way more than people with less money).
- philipallstar 5mo ago
  > If you assume that decision makers operate entirely in silo from their constituents then yes, that's how this works. Most places have two parties, each of which has a position on several thousand issues. You have two choices: combination A of the several thousand issues, or combination B. You don't get to choose with any more granularity than that. > not to mention the massive power imbalance that results from people with lots of money 'voting' way more than people with less money This is a power rectification. If you have two streaming services and one is bad, that bad one will fairly quickly receive far less money as people vote with their wallets. That's not rich people with thousands of accounts "voting" for the winner, it's just a more direct system of people choosing with money. Politics has a far stronger link to an individual's money swaying decisions than that.