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I watched a pickup roll coal in the middle of freaking East Bay, literally within site of downtown San Francisco, on a bicyclist. I reported their license to th

I watched a pickup roll coal in the middle of freaking East Bay, literally within site of downtown San Francisco, on a bicyclist. I reported their license to the California Air Resources Board, and not longer after that I saw it up on jacks in a neighborhood auto shop. That made my day. Asshole.

cogman10 5mo ago
I'm in Idaho, so not such resource exists. It would have to be a federal agency that does the enforcement because our cops/prosecutors/lawmakers won't ever make something like that happen.
- cyberge99 5mo ago
  You can take temporary comfort knowing that it’s costing them $7 per gallon for that little asshole stunt. It seems you have to he is especially insecure to intentionally want to burn smoke on someone else. Especially when Tesla’s have a BioWeapon air filtration setting.
  - marysol5 5mo ago
    The "freedom fighters" who love to cuck themselves to oil barons and hand over their cash, rather then building themselves energy independence systems. They will never cease to boggle my tiny mind
  - FireBeyond 5mo ago
    > Especially when Tesla’s have a BioWeapon air filtration setting. I'm sure it's just as capable as the bulletproof glass.
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Tangurena2 5mo ago
California is rather strict on emissions. Other states don't care. I used to work for my state's version of the DMV and the only public facing page where one could report things was to report people who would not register their cars locally (many people who purchase very expensive cars chose to register them in Montana). There used to be a web page to report license plates that were worn and needed replacing (like the reflective coating wore off, or all the paint got scratched off).
- kube-system 5mo ago
  Vehicle regulation in the US is piss poor. Here's the full list of states that require all passenger vehicles to be inspected for safety and emissions every year: * New York * Massachussets * Vermont
  - lacewing 5mo ago
    I used to live in Massachusetts. I'm not sure it's a benchmark to look up to. If buy a brand new car from a dealer, your next stop must be an inspection station - a pointless waste of time and money. But if your car is older than 15 years? You're no longer required to have an annual emissions test. Pretty backwards.
    - alphabeta3r56 5mo ago
      That's temporary though. Or at least was supposed to be temporary to prevent immediately disqualifying existing vehicles
    - embedding-shape 5mo ago
      > If buy a brand new car from a dealer, your next stop must be an inspection station Has the car never been inspected before, since it's new? Then it'd make sense that it'd be inspected before allowed on the road, not sure this is such a big deal?
      - jt2190 5mo ago
spike021 5mo ago
I had a neighbor with a car they clearly wouldn't fix that desperately needed a smog check. reported them also. they moved away shortly after though, so i'm not sure if CARB ever followed through.
- tedd4u 5mo ago
  I got a nastygram from CARB once for something like that. I think they follow up.
IncreasePosts 5mo ago
Here in Colorado we have a new anti coal rolling law, with a hotline you can call it in on. You know what happens when you call it in? The government sends a letter to the registered address of the truck saying, basically "Hey! Your emissions are very wasteful, you should get that checked out!". Glad California seems to have some teeth to the emissions laws.
- dylan604 5mo ago
  Seems about as effective as could be though. By the time you see them doing it, it's already cleared up by the time you pull out your phone to video it to use as evidence. So this is pretty much acknowledging that it would be ripe for abuse if it had any actual consequence.
  - fc417fc802 5mo ago
    Patiently collect multiple (say 3) independent reports of the same plate. Have the police show up for a surprise physical inspection (free of charge naturally). Track the sources and targets of reports to watch for any abuse.
dylan604 5mo ago
I'm in Texas, and I get coal rolled multiple times a year while I'm riding my bike. One asshat actually hit my shoulder with his extended mirror. After that, I started using my GoPro as a dashcam since I wasn't able to get the asshat's license plate number.
- forshaper 5mo ago
  Man I got hit so many times as a cyclist in TX and GA. It took me awhile to realize that in GA, it was sometimes intentional. I hadn't realized how much bicyclists were disliked.
  - porknubbins 5mo ago
    I don’t known if its the heat or lack of greenery but everything I hear about riding bikes or motocycles in Texas just makes it sounds like there is some deep latent aggression there. I have bicycled in a bunch of states including the Southeast and never encountered anything like the stories people tell about Texas.
    - cogman10 5mo ago
      It has basically 0 pedestrian or bike infrastructure (at least where I was at, Irving, was that way). You have to drive everywhere otherwise you are literally in the middle of the got dang road. The speed limits are also all high. They get up to 50 mph in as many places as possible. It also doesn't help that they've got some of the worst road marking of any state I've been in. There were a lot of roads where it was simply unclear how many lanes were supposed to exist. Now imagine throwing a bike into all this. I don't think it's so much aggression as it is really really terrible infrastructure. Also, FTR, Texans are actually pretty polite drivers (at least they were circa 2011 in Dallas area).
      - dylan604 5mo ago
        > I don't think it's so much aggression as it is really really terrible infrastructure. As one that has been hit and coal rolled, I'll stipulate that I have a biased take that would disagree. I get that people in Irving are probably not as used to bicycles, but where I'm at is one the most popular places for biking (white rock lake). So drivers in this area are definitely used to bikes. These people to me are the meme version of the MAGA crowd. They're also the people that have no qualms doing 50mph in a 30mph zone. Infrastructure or not, these people are these people
flomo 5mo ago
Not an obvious google (for me), so here's the link: https://air.arb.ca.gov/Forms/VehicleComplaint/SmokingVehicle https://air.arb.ca.gov/Forms/VehicleComplaint/SmokingVehicle
vasco 5mo ago
> and not longer after that I saw it up on jacks in a neighborhood auto shop Things that didn't happen for 200 please
- kstrauser 5mo ago
  #NothingEverHappens In the real world, sometimes grownups have to actively do things to make their worlds nicer. We can’t all just sit around being cynical or nothing ever gets done.
  - vasco 5mo ago
    In the real world, in a city as big as San Francisco, probabilities say otherwise.

cogman10 5mo ago

I'm in Idaho, so not such resource exists. It would have to be a federal agency that does the enforcement because our cops/prosecutors/lawmakers won't ever make something like that happen.

cyberge99 5mo ago
You can take temporary comfort knowing that it’s costing them $7 per gallon for that little asshole stunt. It seems you have to he is especially insecure to intentionally want to burn smoke on someone else. Especially when Tesla’s have a BioWeapon air filtration setting.
- marysol5 5mo ago
  The "freedom fighters" who love to cuck themselves to oil barons and hand over their cash, rather then building themselves energy independence systems. They will never cease to boggle my tiny mind
- FireBeyond 5mo ago
  > Especially when Tesla’s have a BioWeapon air filtration setting. I'm sure it's just as capable as the bulletproof glass.

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Tangurena2 5mo ago

California is rather strict on emissions. Other states don't care. I used to work for my state's version of the DMV and the only public facing page where one could report things was to report people who would not register their cars locally (many people who purchase very expensive cars chose to register them in Montana). There used to be a web page to report license plates that were worn and needed replacing (like the reflective coating wore off, or all the paint got scratched off).

kube-system 5mo ago
Vehicle regulation in the US is piss poor. Here's the full list of states that require all passenger vehicles to be inspected for safety and emissions every year: * New York * Massachussets * Vermont
- lacewing 5mo ago
  I used to live in Massachusetts. I'm not sure it's a benchmark to look up to. If buy a brand new car from a dealer, your next stop must be an inspection station - a pointless waste of time and money. But if your car is older than 15 years? You're no longer required to have an annual emissions test. Pretty backwards.
  - alphabeta3r56 5mo ago
    That's temporary though. Or at least was supposed to be temporary to prevent immediately disqualifying existing vehicles
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    > If buy a brand new car from a dealer, your next stop must be an inspection station Has the car never been inspected before, since it's new? Then it'd make sense that it'd be inspected before allowed on the road, not sure this is such a big deal?
    - jt2190 5mo ago

spike021 5mo ago

I had a neighbor with a car they clearly wouldn't fix that desperately needed a smog check. reported them also. they moved away shortly after though, so i'm not sure if CARB ever followed through.

tedd4u 5mo ago
I got a nastygram from CARB once for something like that. I think they follow up.

IncreasePosts 5mo ago

Here in Colorado we have a new anti coal rolling law, with a hotline you can call it in on. You know what happens when you call it in? The government sends a letter to the registered address of the truck saying, basically "Hey! Your emissions are very wasteful, you should get that checked out!". Glad California seems to have some teeth to the emissions laws.

dylan604 5mo ago
Seems about as effective as could be though. By the time you see them doing it, it's already cleared up by the time you pull out your phone to video it to use as evidence. So this is pretty much acknowledging that it would be ripe for abuse if it had any actual consequence.
- fc417fc802 5mo ago
  Patiently collect multiple (say 3) independent reports of the same plate. Have the police show up for a surprise physical inspection (free of charge naturally). Track the sources and targets of reports to watch for any abuse.

dylan604 5mo ago

I'm in Texas, and I get coal rolled multiple times a year while I'm riding my bike. One asshat actually hit my shoulder with his extended mirror. After that, I started using my GoPro as a dashcam since I wasn't able to get the asshat's license plate number.

forshaper 5mo ago
Man I got hit so many times as a cyclist in TX and GA. It took me awhile to realize that in GA, it was sometimes intentional. I hadn't realized how much bicyclists were disliked.
- porknubbins 5mo ago
  I don’t known if its the heat or lack of greenery but everything I hear about riding bikes or motocycles in Texas just makes it sounds like there is some deep latent aggression there. I have bicycled in a bunch of states including the Southeast and never encountered anything like the stories people tell about Texas.
  - cogman10 5mo ago
    It has basically 0 pedestrian or bike infrastructure (at least where I was at, Irving, was that way). You have to drive everywhere otherwise you are literally in the middle of the got dang road. The speed limits are also all high. They get up to 50 mph in as many places as possible. It also doesn't help that they've got some of the worst road marking of any state I've been in. There were a lot of roads where it was simply unclear how many lanes were supposed to exist. Now imagine throwing a bike into all this. I don't think it's so much aggression as it is really really terrible infrastructure. Also, FTR, Texans are actually pretty polite drivers (at least they were circa 2011 in Dallas area).
    - dylan604 5mo ago
      > I don't think it's so much aggression as it is really really terrible infrastructure. As one that has been hit and coal rolled, I'll stipulate that I have a biased take that would disagree. I get that people in Irving are probably not as used to bicycles, but where I'm at is one the most popular places for biking (white rock lake). So drivers in this area are definitely used to bikes. These people to me are the meme version of the MAGA crowd. They're also the people that have no qualms doing 50mph in a 30mph zone. Infrastructure or not, these people are these people

flomo 5mo ago

Not an obvious google (for me), so here's the link: https://air.arb.ca.gov/Forms/VehicleComplaint/SmokingVehicle https://air.arb.ca.gov/Forms/VehicleComplaint/SmokingVehicle

vasco 5mo ago

> and not longer after that I saw it up on jacks in a neighborhood auto shop Things that didn't happen for 200 please

kstrauser 5mo ago
#NothingEverHappens In the real world, sometimes grownups have to actively do things to make their worlds nicer. We can’t all just sit around being cynical or nothing ever gets done.
- vasco 5mo ago
  In the real world, in a city as big as San Francisco, probabilities say otherwise.