In fairness, for you to say those beliefs aren't valid now is equally conservative - things will change and maybe in the direction of their beliefs, in part bec

In fairness, for you to say those beliefs aren't valid now is equally conservative - things will change and maybe in the direction of their beliefs, in part because of what they do. That's how change happens - some people with a different vision persevere from being rejected to being accepted. They are conservative about time X, and in your comment is conservative about time Y (which happens to be now).