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Codex is good now. I’m undecided which is better, but they’re definitely close enough that I feel comfortable recommending Claude-exclusive people in my circle

Codex is good now. I’m undecided which is better, but they’re definitely close enough that I feel comfortable recommending Claude-exclusive people in my circle to try codex.

ticulatedspline 5mo ago
Is there a good 4th option yet? I haven't really been impressed by what I've tried so far. I believe Claude Code only works with claude and seems all I hear about that is it's great but the token limits are so anemic as to make it useless unless you want to shell out $200+ a month, which I do not so I haven't bothered. I tried codex but it wouldn't run out-of-the-box. Installation on a fresh Windows box resulted in some obscure error which is a strong "this product isn't fully baked" signal. Open code desktop thus far has been the only turn-key solution, worked right away on it's pickle model but was a real pain to hook to anything else. It exhibits a lot of the typical obtuse UX that open source projects end up with since open source tends to attract coders-developers more than UX/UI people. At least it does mention that it's still beta.
- wett 5mo ago
  I liked Zed’s agent as a harness. It’s LLM agnostic. My org just got GitHub Copilot and I use it as the API provider for requests.
- DeathArrow 5mo ago
  >I believe Claude Code only works with claude and seems all I hear about that is it's great but the token limits are so anemic as to make it useless unless you want to shell out $200+ a month, which I do not so I haven't bothered. I use Claude Code with GLM 5.q, Kimi K2.6, MiniMax M2.7 and Xiaomi MiMo V2.5 Pro.
  - ticulatedspline 5mo ago
    ah , wasn't aware it was open for use with non Claude models I'll take a closer look at it then. thanks.
  - Larrikin 5mo ago
    Why use Claude Code over something like Opencode then? From my limited usage of the tools over the past couple of months Claude Codes ergonomics feel strictly worse than Opencode, but I haven't deeply investigated either yet. I am using Claude models in both so I am getting a one to one comparison.
    - DeathArrow 5mo ago
      Because I tried OpenCode and Claude Code seems a better harness. It has the best plugins and many skills are designed to work best with Claude Code.
shivang2607 5mo ago
Maybe, in your experience, but I have tried both claude and codex and the code quality that claude produces is still superior in my experience, maybe its because of the nature of app I am building

Codex is good now. I’m undecided which is better, but they’re definitely close enough that I feel comfortable recommending Claude-exclusive people in my circle to try codex.

ticulatedspline 5mo ago

Is there a good 4th option yet? I haven't really been impressed by what I've tried so far. I believe Claude Code only works with claude and seems all I hear about that is it's great but the token limits are so anemic as to make it useless unless you want to shell out $200+ a month, which I do not so I haven't bothered. I tried codex but it wouldn't run out-of-the-box. Installation on a fresh Windows box resulted in some obscure error which is a strong "this product isn't fully baked" signal. Open code desktop thus far has been the only turn-key solution, worked right away on it's pickle model but was a real pain to hook to anything else. It exhibits a lot of the typical obtuse UX that open source projects end up with since open source tends to attract coders-developers more than UX/UI people. At least it does mention that it's still beta.

wett 5mo ago
I liked Zed’s agent as a harness. It’s LLM agnostic. My org just got GitHub Copilot and I use it as the API provider for requests.
DeathArrow 5mo ago
>I believe Claude Code only works with claude and seems all I hear about that is it's great but the token limits are so anemic as to make it useless unless you want to shell out $200+ a month, which I do not so I haven't bothered. I use Claude Code with GLM 5.q, Kimi K2.6, MiniMax M2.7 and Xiaomi MiMo V2.5 Pro.
- ticulatedspline 5mo ago
  ah , wasn't aware it was open for use with non Claude models I'll take a closer look at it then. thanks.
- Larrikin 5mo ago
  Why use Claude Code over something like Opencode then? From my limited usage of the tools over the past couple of months Claude Codes ergonomics feel strictly worse than Opencode, but I haven't deeply investigated either yet. I am using Claude models in both so I am getting a one to one comparison.
  - DeathArrow 5mo ago
    Because I tried OpenCode and Claude Code seems a better harness. It has the best plugins and many skills are designed to work best with Claude Code.

shivang2607 5mo ago

Maybe, in your experience, but I have tried both claude and codex and the code quality that claude produces is still superior in my experience, maybe its because of the nature of app I am building