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> If they want to tip in some cash or make some kind of deal fantastic. But mandatory? No sense making carve outs for datacenters. The laws in Virginia and Tex
by freetime2 5mo ago
> If they want to tip in some cash or make some kind of deal fantastic. But mandatory? No sense making carve outs for datacenters.
The laws in Virginia and Texas are written with respect to load demand, not type of business. There aren't special carve outs for data centers, it just happens that most new high load customers recently are data centers.
If voluntary pledges were sufficient to fix the issues - that would be great. But they aren't (see earlier reference outlining the real-world problems), hence the need for regulations.
> But no, legally speaking, a business should be able to connect to a common utility.
Utilities typically cannot discriminate against customers arbitrarily - although that is more a consequence of being required by regulators to provide universal access, rather than some bill of rights guaranteeing electricity to all businesses. If regulators - who are (indirectly) accountable to the voting public - decide that they want to make some special carve outs specifically targeting data centers, they are probably within their rights legally to do so. (Of course I am not a lawyer - so this is just my opinion based on my limited understanding of how the world works).
And this isn't arbitrary discimination. Not all uses of electricity are equal. I think there are a lot of people who would agree it's more important to power a hospital, for example, than a bitcoin mining operation. And it may make sense to prioritize somes uses over others with differing rates, service guarantees, etc.
But I tend to think laws like in Virginia and Texas which target all high-load customers are sensible. That's really the root problem as far as the electrical grid is concerned.
- protocolture 5mo ago>And this isn't arbitrary discimination. Not all uses of electricity are equal. I think there are a lot of people who would agree it's more important to power a hospital, for example, than a bitcoin mining operation. And it may make sense to prioritize somes uses over others with differing rates, service guarantees, etc. I mean my local power grid, who I have had some limited dealings with, have multiple backups for hospitals, and suburbs with hospitals on grid are exempt from load shedding. Meanwhile, everyone else, including data centers just have generator and UPS backup like anyone would expect. >for example, than a bitcoin mining operation Data Centers that might be carrying emergency calls to first responders are of course, not Bitcoin mining operations. >But I tend to think laws like in Virginia and Texas which target all high-load customers are sensible. That's really the root problem as far as the electrical grid is concerned. The only problem I can see is managing the onramp for solar and wind operators, who need special tooling to prevent unwanted supply. The last time we had a major power issue, they just bought power from interstate and flattened the curve immediately.