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adding http://tldr.it http://tldr.it as a generic approach.

by user24 14y ago

MichaelApproved 14y ago
Another good example of an automated attempt to summarize the news that'll never work. Here's why: Let's assume we have the perfect algorithm that knows exactly which sentences to pick for a good summary. You'll still end up with a summary that's horribly out of context and difficult to read. Try it yourself. Assume your brain is the perfect algorithm and pick the most important sentences for a summary. Then try to read just the sentences that you picked without rewriting it into a coherent paragraph. More than likely, it'll be an out of context confusing block of text. Algorithms will never solve the summarizing process unless they are teamed up with a rewriting engine that could build coherent paragraphs.
- zokier 14y ago
  > Another good example of an automated attempt to summarize the news that'll never work. > Algorithms will never solve the summarizing process unless they are teamed up with a rewriting engine that could build coherent paragraphs. That doesn't sound like never. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if such AI would created within 50-100 years, ie in my lifetime. I think this comment exposes the common false thought-pattern that if something is not viable in the next quarter, then it'll never happen.
  - MichaelApproved 14y ago
    No, you are misreading my statement. Please go back and look for the word "unless". Sentence picking algorithms alone will never solve the problem unless a rewriting engine is added.
    - zokier 14y ago
      Sorry, you are right; I misread the first sentence. I didn't realize that you referred to tldr.io specifically with it.
      - louischatriot 14y ago
        Probable mistype, you mean tldr.it right ? Just saying that as a cofounder of tldr.io, whose goal is similar to that of SkimThat: provide human written summaries ;)
        billirvine 14y ago
        What steps are you taking to mitigate spam and bias in summaries created by people? I know if I wrote a summary of a Microsoft Surface article (I have one), it'd be very different from someone who loves it -- or is even an MS employee. And spam... big issue there. (disclaimer - I have your plugin and have tried it, summaries seem way too short.)

adding http://tldr.it http://tldr.it as a generic approach.

by user24 14y ago

adding http://tldr.it http://tldr.it as a generic approach.

Another good example of an automated attempt to summarize the news that'll never work. Here's why: Let's assume we have the perfect algorithm that knows exactly which sentences to pick for a good summary. You'll still end up with a summary that's horribly out of context and difficult to read. Try it yourself. Assume your brain is the perfect algorithm and pick the most important sentences for a summary. Then try to read just the sentences that you picked without rewriting it into a coherent paragraph. More than likely, it'll be an out of context confusing block of text. Algorithms will never solve the summarizing process unless they are teamed up with a rewriting engine that could build coherent paragraphs.

zokier 14y ago
> Another good example of an automated attempt to summarize the news that'll never work. > Algorithms will never solve the summarizing process unless they are teamed up with a rewriting engine that could build coherent paragraphs. That doesn't sound like never. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if such AI would created within 50-100 years, ie in my lifetime. I think this comment exposes the common false thought-pattern that if something is not viable in the next quarter, then it'll never happen.
- MichaelApproved 14y ago
  No, you are misreading my statement. Please go back and look for the word "unless". Sentence picking algorithms alone will never solve the problem unless a rewriting engine is added.
  - zokier 14y ago
    Sorry, you are right; I misread the first sentence. I didn't realize that you referred to tldr.io specifically with it.
    - louischatriot 14y ago
      Probable mistype, you mean tldr.it right ? Just saying that as a cofounder of tldr.io, whose goal is similar to that of SkimThat: provide human written summaries ;)
      - billirvine 14y ago
        What steps are you taking to mitigate spam and bias in summaries created by people? I know if I wrote a summary of a Microsoft Surface article (I have one), it'd be very different from someone who loves it -- or is even an MS employee. And spam... big issue there. (disclaimer - I have your plugin and have tried it, summaries seem way too short.)