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2 points by cyphersanctus 14y ago

corporalagumbo 14y ago
I feel sorry for the kids. I think the iPad is going to lose its lustre pretty fast. If you want great games, get a Wii U, not an iPad. If you want a great tablet, wait two years or so until the ecosystem is mature. Buying an iPad now is little better than buying a ticking clock of obsolescence.
- garyrichardson 14y ago
  I agree with you 100%. What? I'm on my second iPad and I sold the first one for about 1/2 what I paid for it. I'm not really sore at that since I got to use an iPad 1 for 2 years, then I got an iPad 3. I also get a new laptop roughly every 2 years -- another ticking clock of obsolescence. I could wait two years, or I could buy and iPad now and another in two years. The difference is I get to use an iPad for the next 2 years while I wait. When I buy something computer related, I don't really expect it to meet my needs for more than 1 or 2 years (except maybe LCD's).
  - corporalagumbo 14y ago
    My point was not a general one about tech products becoming obsolete with time. You and I are perfectly capable of assessing the range of tech products available at this point in time, weighing up the advantages of buying now versus what products are likely to be available soon, and making a buying decision which is optimally satisfactory. Additionally, we have large disposable incomes, so even if we are not that happy with one or two of the purchases we make it is generally not a big deal for us. Kids on the other hand are, in general, poorly informed, vulnerable to fads, and have limited disposable incomes. I'm sure a lot of kids barely even know what an iPad is - they just know they want one. And when they get it, and they do what kids generally do with these devices - play games - how are they supposed to know that the iPad sucks for gaming? For a lot of the current generation of kids, the iPad will be an entry point into gaming - it has the cachet that Nintendo had for earlier generations. Kids buy or ask for iPads because then they can show them off at school. But the iPad is such a limited device - the cost for a highly modular OS with an abundant app ecosystem is that there's just not much to get your teeth into with the device. The most interesting thing you can do with the OS is long-press an icon until they all start to wiggle. I watch my little brother with his $600 iPad. First he's playing Dragonvale - a Farmville clone - for hours. Then he's playing GTA3 - do you know that videogame is 10 years old I ask him? Don't you want to play it with a real controller instead of slidy glass controls on a heavy tablet? Then he plays Chinatown Wars - more slidy glass controls for a ported DS game. Maybe I'm just being cranky and my-generation-was-better-ist. Maybe there's a lot to be said for one device that can do all of these things. Maybe the iPad is great because first kids plays with the games, then they find other cool apps, then suddenly they've set up recording studios at home. I dunno. Anyway as a game-playing device in my opinion the iPad is too limited, and as a useful tablet I think it is very far from a mature ideal of how a tablet could work - and I think tablets will evolve very, very quickly over the next three years, and the iPad will look very outdated soon. So I feel sorry for the kids because I think they could do better for gaming and because their new treasure is about to submerged in a looming surge of innovation.
cyphersanctus 14y ago
Well, I suppose its a matter of taste. I initially didn't know what I would need an iPad for when I received it. Nowadays, a year and a half later, I wouldn't change it for anything. Its amazing for checking emails when I wake up, for checking facebook right before bed. For porn its amazing, easiest thing to take to the bathroom, try taking your macbook pro hehe.
- corporalagumbo 14y ago
  How much do you love it? Do you think it's perfect? Do you like responding to emails on the iPad? What about reading HN? Do the thumb keyboards work for you? Do you like the autocorrection? Do you use a case or cover?
  - cyphersanctus 14y ago
    I use a cover that works quite well. I always use the ipad sideways, so that the keyboard is bigger and the format of the pages is good. Its not great for responding to emails but it works. For reading them its perfect. I love it very much, then again im sure it will become better over time. I have the autocorrection disabled because I write emails and messages in various languages.
Shivetya 14y ago
I can understand. Part of it is certainly going to be peer pressure related. My own nephew has friends he knows are getting an iPad so in his mind nothing else would suffice. Pretty much the biggest innovation of Apple was marketing. Yes the devices are very good but their marketing is something that their competitors always seem to overlook. Fortunately you can buy iPad's of earlier generations, even the first retina types, for a lot less off of either Apple's own site or even through their e-bay entity. While I see the value they represent I am all for finding more reasons to keep kids outdoors instead of indoors. I kept my Kindle for reading because of this one issue, it is much better outside than any tablet. If need mail or internet my phone is fine and any serious mail/browsing is best on the computer (iMac fwiw)
Toshio 14y ago
Kids don't watch Oprah, dontchaknow.
- thedrbrian 14y ago
  Au contraire Oprah is pimping the cool tablet this Christmas http://www.cultofmac.com/201944/oprah-gushes-about-her-love-for-microsoft-surface-while-tweeting-from-her-ipad-image/ http://www.cultofmac.com/201944/oprah-gushes-about-her-love-...

2 points by cyphersanctus 14y ago

I feel sorry for the kids. I think the iPad is going to lose its lustre pretty fast. If you want great games, get a Wii U, not an iPad. If you want a great tablet, wait two years or so until the ecosystem is mature. Buying an iPad now is little better than buying a ticking clock of obsolescence.

garyrichardson 14y ago
I agree with you 100%. What? I'm on my second iPad and I sold the first one for about 1/2 what I paid for it. I'm not really sore at that since I got to use an iPad 1 for 2 years, then I got an iPad 3. I also get a new laptop roughly every 2 years -- another ticking clock of obsolescence. I could wait two years, or I could buy and iPad now and another in two years. The difference is I get to use an iPad for the next 2 years while I wait. When I buy something computer related, I don't really expect it to meet my needs for more than 1 or 2 years (except maybe LCD's).
- corporalagumbo 14y ago
  My point was not a general one about tech products becoming obsolete with time. You and I are perfectly capable of assessing the range of tech products available at this point in time, weighing up the advantages of buying now versus what products are likely to be available soon, and making a buying decision which is optimally satisfactory. Additionally, we have large disposable incomes, so even if we are not that happy with one or two of the purchases we make it is generally not a big deal for us. Kids on the other hand are, in general, poorly informed, vulnerable to fads, and have limited disposable incomes. I'm sure a lot of kids barely even know what an iPad is - they just know they want one. And when they get it, and they do what kids generally do with these devices - play games - how are they supposed to know that the iPad sucks for gaming? For a lot of the current generation of kids, the iPad will be an entry point into gaming - it has the cachet that Nintendo had for earlier generations. Kids buy or ask for iPads because then they can show them off at school. But the iPad is such a limited device - the cost for a highly modular OS with an abundant app ecosystem is that there's just not much to get your teeth into with the device. The most interesting thing you can do with the OS is long-press an icon until they all start to wiggle. I watch my little brother with his $600 iPad. First he's playing Dragonvale - a Farmville clone - for hours. Then he's playing GTA3 - do you know that videogame is 10 years old I ask him? Don't you want to play it with a real controller instead of slidy glass controls on a heavy tablet? Then he plays Chinatown Wars - more slidy glass controls for a ported DS game. Maybe I'm just being cranky and my-generation-was-better-ist. Maybe there's a lot to be said for one device that can do all of these things. Maybe the iPad is great because first kids plays with the games, then they find other cool apps, then suddenly they've set up recording studios at home. I dunno. Anyway as a game-playing device in my opinion the iPad is too limited, and as a useful tablet I think it is very far from a mature ideal of how a tablet could work - and I think tablets will evolve very, very quickly over the next three years, and the iPad will look very outdated soon. So I feel sorry for the kids because I think they could do better for gaming and because their new treasure is about to submerged in a looming surge of innovation.

cyphersanctus 14y ago

Well, I suppose its a matter of taste. I initially didn't know what I would need an iPad for when I received it. Nowadays, a year and a half later, I wouldn't change it for anything. Its amazing for checking emails when I wake up, for checking facebook right before bed. For porn its amazing, easiest thing to take to the bathroom, try taking your macbook pro hehe.

corporalagumbo 14y ago
How much do you love it? Do you think it's perfect? Do you like responding to emails on the iPad? What about reading HN? Do the thumb keyboards work for you? Do you like the autocorrection? Do you use a case or cover?
- cyphersanctus 14y ago
  I use a cover that works quite well. I always use the ipad sideways, so that the keyboard is bigger and the format of the pages is good. Its not great for responding to emails but it works. For reading them its perfect. I love it very much, then again im sure it will become better over time. I have the autocorrection disabled because I write emails and messages in various languages.

Shivetya 14y ago

I can understand. Part of it is certainly going to be peer pressure related. My own nephew has friends he knows are getting an iPad so in his mind nothing else would suffice. Pretty much the biggest innovation of Apple was marketing. Yes the devices are very good but their marketing is something that their competitors always seem to overlook. Fortunately you can buy iPad's of earlier generations, even the first retina types, for a lot less off of either Apple's own site or even through their e-bay entity. While I see the value they represent I am all for finding more reasons to keep kids outdoors instead of indoors. I kept my Kindle for reading because of this one issue, it is much better outside than any tablet. If need mail or internet my phone is fine and any serious mail/browsing is best on the computer (iMac fwiw)

Toshio 14y ago

Kids don't watch Oprah, dontchaknow.

thedrbrian 14y ago
Au contraire Oprah is pimping the cool tablet this Christmas http://www.cultofmac.com/201944/oprah-gushes-about-her-love-for-microsoft-surface-while-tweeting-from-her-ipad-image/ http://www.cultofmac.com/201944/oprah-gushes-about-her-love-...