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More and more colleges are saying they will cancel your degrees if they retroactively detect AI cheating. This will be hysterical. AI isn't the issue as much
by j45 5mo ago
More and more colleges are saying they will cancel your degrees if they retroactively detect AI cheating. This will be hysterical.
AI isn't the issue as much how AI is used. Passive use of any tech, including social media, and now AI is lazy and has poor outcomes.
Aligning AI use with the goals of all sides, and not just one side getting paid, or just one side graduating could look different.
Most people attend higher education to access opportunity to improve their lives, overwhelmingly for a career and earning.
The idea of higher education teaching "learning how to think" is perhaps a relic of the origin of some universities which didn't historically do STEM, and focused on things like liberal arts, which in turn often had the support of coming from a privileged background, or financial safety net.
STEM money and funding though, attached a lot of traditional post secondaries to do that as well.
It's perfectly acceptable to expect higher education of any kind to have you ready to grow and earn more in better suited opportunities. Not enough educational institutaions don't publish their % of students who graduate in the area that they started in, and also the % of graduates who find their next step, career wise, etc, in 6-12 months of education.
- rknatty 5mo agoIt is very difficult for them to prove the allegation of AI cheating. If you didn't cheat, you should fight. You have legal rights, and you don't have to roll over. I represent students who have been unfairly accused of AI cheating. Properly defended, it is not that easy for the school to win.
- hirvi74 5mo agoI have found the whole honor system of academics to be just another stick to whip students with when convenient. I am not opposed to any sort of honor system or academic integrity when there is actual honor and integrity, but the system needs to apply to both sides. None of this "rules for thee, but not for me."
- j45 5mo agoThere are more modern exhaustive ai scanners that are far beyond the dated software being sold to institutions. Universities can be good at buying things to maintain the status quo and past. The issue with AI based software is it must actually keep pace. The tooling in this space does not seem to be.
- gus_massa 5mo agoYou mean the same colleges that used AI proctoring during 2020 that had a lot of horror stories of false positives, like a guy passing in a window in the back of the student or another student that was not looking 100% of the time to the screen?
- j45 5mo agoHaha, I remember that. Tech salespeople will always take advantage of non-tech buyers, especially academics who won't listen to anyone and believe they can do it better themselves, or manage it with policy and words alone. Imagine software being bought and sold by both parties nodding.
- Lerc 5mo ago>Most people attend higher education to access opportunity to improve their lives, overwhelmingly for a career and earning. I think that's the presumption that might be at the heart of the problem. People have come to believe that their lives are improved by having more things instead of making themselves better. >The idea of higher education teaching "learning how to think" is perhaps a relic I worry that this is might have been a causal step involved in producing the current state of the world.