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Microsoft has long had a tick tock cycle for Windows. 98: great. ME: bad. XP: great. Vista: bad. 7: great. 8: bad. 10: great. 11: bad

qzw 5mo ago
Maybe “great” is going a bit far for some of those. “Not bad” vs “bad” seems more realistic.
kelvinjps10 5mo ago
10 was bad 11 is a little better but no enough. With win10 they started with more annoying ads and the start menu with apps and the click bait news in the start menu
- Levitating 5mo ago
  still leaps better than windows 8
  - sunaookami 5mo ago
    Aside from the start menu no, not really. Windows 8 is the most performant operating system. No laggy animations (thanks to DirectUI), fast boot time, especially fast on older systems. Windows 10 started the whole lagfest.
    - bigstrat2003 5mo ago
      "aside from the start menu" is one hell of a caveat. When you screw up one of the main UI elements as badly as they did, it really drags the whole experience down.
      - sunaookami 5mo ago
        Well most people just press the Windows key and type to open a program which works exactly the same on Win8. And personally I loved the start screen. And how often do you really need the start menu?
        Citizen_Lame 5mo ago
        That's the most brain dead take I've seen in a while. Yes, forget about start menu and lets just search everything or use giant pictorials designed for 'blind' people.
        sunaookami 5mo ago
        Not what I said.
    - donkeylazy456 5mo ago
      exactly! I don't understand why people hated it so much. It was snappy, clean OS. I've always thought it was better than Win7. Of course, absent of start menu was terrible choice. And I meant 8.1, not 8.
  - thewebguyd 5mo ago
    It was, eventually. In the beginning 10 was literally just Windows 8.1 (it even ran the same NT6 kernel) but with the classic UI slapped back on. They called it 10 to get away from the Windows 8 branding that everyone hated. I recall it being pretty mediocre at release, just a reskinned 8.1. 10 started to come into its own much later after NT10
  - hypercube33 5mo ago
    Windows 8 was ultra stable. I've seen uptime well over multiple years on it. The original UX was beyond awful and 8.1 made it ok but the core of the OS was solid.
  - kelvinjps10 5mo ago
    Idk, I literally skipped Windows 8.
contextfree 5mo ago
A fundamental problem with this is that "8" is two different releases (8.0 and 8.1), "10" is about 9 different releases, and "11" is three different releases so far (21H2, 22H2, and 24H2). It doesn't make much sense to lump all of them together because they share the same marketing name; technically there's no difference between going from 8.0 to 8.1 or from 22H2 to 24H2 and going from Vista to 7 or 10 20H1 to 11 21H2
CrimsonCape 5mo ago
Maybe Windows 12 will be the promised "last Windows" which 10 was supposed to be. I'd love to know the exec who ordered Windows 11. It stinks of "I need a product on my resume that I launched because being Windows 10 "maintainer" sounds so pathetic on a resume."
kristianp 5mo ago
I mean, apart from killing the start button and all the touch first applications, windows 8 felt really satisfying to me by eliminating transparency effects and having simpler, clearer window decorations. I hate the transparency effects in windows 7, and performance was improved in Win 8.

qzw 5mo ago

Maybe “great” is going a bit far for some of those. “Not bad” vs “bad” seems more realistic.

kelvinjps10 5mo ago

10 was bad 11 is a little better but no enough. With win10 they started with more annoying ads and the start menu with apps and the click bait news in the start menu

Levitating 5mo ago
still leaps better than windows 8
- sunaookami 5mo ago
  Aside from the start menu no, not really. Windows 8 is the most performant operating system. No laggy animations (thanks to DirectUI), fast boot time, especially fast on older systems. Windows 10 started the whole lagfest.
  - bigstrat2003 5mo ago
    "aside from the start menu" is one hell of a caveat. When you screw up one of the main UI elements as badly as they did, it really drags the whole experience down.
    - sunaookami 5mo ago
      Well most people just press the Windows key and type to open a program which works exactly the same on Win8. And personally I loved the start screen. And how often do you really need the start menu?
      - Citizen_Lame 5mo ago
        That's the most brain dead take I've seen in a while. Yes, forget about start menu and lets just search everything or use giant pictorials designed for 'blind' people.
        sunaookami 5mo ago
        Not what I said.
  - donkeylazy456 5mo ago
    exactly! I don't understand why people hated it so much. It was snappy, clean OS. I've always thought it was better than Win7. Of course, absent of start menu was terrible choice. And I meant 8.1, not 8.
- thewebguyd 5mo ago
  It was, eventually. In the beginning 10 was literally just Windows 8.1 (it even ran the same NT6 kernel) but with the classic UI slapped back on. They called it 10 to get away from the Windows 8 branding that everyone hated. I recall it being pretty mediocre at release, just a reskinned 8.1. 10 started to come into its own much later after NT10
- hypercube33 5mo ago
  Windows 8 was ultra stable. I've seen uptime well over multiple years on it. The original UX was beyond awful and 8.1 made it ok but the core of the OS was solid.
- kelvinjps10 5mo ago
  Idk, I literally skipped Windows 8.

contextfree 5mo ago

A fundamental problem with this is that "8" is two different releases (8.0 and 8.1), "10" is about 9 different releases, and "11" is three different releases so far (21H2, 22H2, and 24H2). It doesn't make much sense to lump all of them together because they share the same marketing name; technically there's no difference between going from 8.0 to 8.1 or from 22H2 to 24H2 and going from Vista to 7 or 10 20H1 to 11 21H2

CrimsonCape 5mo ago

Maybe Windows 12 will be the promised "last Windows" which 10 was supposed to be. I'd love to know the exec who ordered Windows 11. It stinks of "I need a product on my resume that I launched because being Windows 10 "maintainer" sounds so pathetic on a resume."

kristianp 5mo ago

I mean, apart from killing the start button and all the touch first applications, windows 8 felt really satisfying to me by eliminating transparency effects and having simpler, clearer window decorations. I hate the transparency effects in windows 7, and performance was improved in Win 8.