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Some brands take software very seriously. This isn't an "entire industry" problem. My experience is pretty small; I've owned the same Tesla Model 3 LR for the

by bdamm 5mo ago

Some brands take software very seriously. This isn't an "entire industry" problem. My experience is pretty small; I've owned the same Tesla Model 3 LR for the last 6.5 years, and the software has been pretty much solid the entire time. There was briefly a problem with echos when I called land lines using the bluetooth and my iPhone, but that problem eventually went away - not clear if it was because the iPhone changed, the software was updated, or perhaps the particular landline I was calling got an upgraded CO, but for a car that's a pretty good track record. There were some sensor glitches but they got fixed. I've test driven other cars. Lucid Air - tons of weird glitches. Rivian - almost as good as the Tesla, but laggy UI on a brand new car. My Tesla is almost seven years old and still smooth as the day it was new! How do they do it? Compass heading specifically does seem to be unusually challenging. Does anyone else recall the bizarre "Google Maps on iPhone is 90 deg off" problem? Totally strange.

cheema33 5mo ago
As a fellow Tesla Model 3 LR owner, I can confirm that this has been my experience as well. I bought mine in 2008. So nearly 8 years old and still going strong.
- natch 5mo ago
  You mean in 2018 maybe?
  - selcuka 5mo ago
    The year is correct. They omitted to mention that it was a Tesla DeLorean.
Brian_K_White 5mo ago
Tesla takes software very seriously, but for their goals not yours.
- bdamm 5mo ago
  This is just fearmongering trope. You can imagine whatever you like, but there's no evidence that they're anything other than a car and technology company that wants to sell lots of its product.
  - p_j_w 5mo ago
    Their employees were caught viewing and sharing nude photos of their customers on slack.
  - senordevnyc 5mo ago
    technology company that wants to sell lots of its product So, like every company out there spying on their customers as much as they can get away with? Cool.
  - Brian_K_White 5mo ago
    hoo doggies...
NewsaHackO 5mo ago
Yeah, this is similar to what I hear about Tesla's everywhere. While some members of the company leadership can be polarizing, the product itself seems very solid. Have been saving up for my first "good" car since starting my end-career job, really want to get a Tesla, but wish there was a hybrid option due to charger anxiety. Otherwise, would get one already.
- UltraSane 5mo ago
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  - u8080 5mo ago
    Yeah, fuck VolksWagen!
    - UltraSane 5mo ago
      It would be like buying a car from VW while actual nazis were still in charge. All evidence supports Musk being very racist. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/04/24/musk-online-posts-race-whiteness/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/04/24/musk-on... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/12/elon-musk-posts-january-white-supremacists https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/12/elon-musk... Elon Musk’s longtime fixation on a white racial majority is intensifying. The richest man in the world posted about how the white race was under threat, made allusions to race science or promoted anti-immigrant conspiracy content on 26 out of 31 days in January, according to the Guardian’s analysis of his social media output. The posts, made on his platform X, reflect a renewed embrace of what extremism experts describe as white supremacist material. “Whites are a rapidly dying minority,” Musk said on 22 January, a short time before taking the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos, while reposting an Irish anti-immigrant influencer’s video about demographic change. Musk’s posts included him repeatedly claiming white people face systemic discrimination, endorsing the conspiracy that there is an ongoing genocide against white people in countries around the world and promoting a claim that white people would be “slaughtered” by non-whites if they become a demographic minority. “If you stripped Elon Musk’s name off of these things and showed them to me, I would think that this was a white supremacist,” said Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Extremism, who reviewed a selection of the posts.
drnick1 5mo ago
> Some brands take software very seriously. This isn't an "entire industry" problem. This does not change the fact that Tesla is shamelessly spying on you. In fact, Tesla takes the software so seriously that it can probably fully remotely control your car. This is not something that I would want, and, if I were to be gifted a Tesla, the first thing that I would do is unplugging the cellular modem. If the car becomes unusable because of this, I would get rid of it.
- KennyBlanken 5mo ago
  All you need to do is convince your Tesla that it's in a constant state of having just crashed, and the poof, nobody will ever see your data!
KennyBlanken 5mo ago
> Some brands take software very seriously. > Tesla It's really hard to take this claim seriously about a car company that programs its self-driving system to disengage if it detects what it thinks is a likely crash, so said company can then tell investigators, regulators, juries, and the public that "the car wasn't in self-driving mode when it crashed." "I'm not touching her, Mom. THE STICK is touching her!" ...and touts itself as having the most advanced driver assistance and self-driving capabilities, yet has the highest crash rate of any brand? Beating out Mustang and Imprezza WRX STi owners is truly an accomplishment, though. ...and (still?) hasn't fixed its issues with "phantom braking" that have caused multi-car pileups ...and has self-driving software documented as being so bad it will randomly swerve at cyclists, steer at light poles while turning, and swerve at crowds of pedestrians on a street corner waiting for the light? Which after years of refinement drives about as well as a highly distracted teenager who just got their learner's permit? Yeah, taking software "very seriously."
- bdamm 5mo ago
  We were talking about the fundamental experience of driving the car. If you want to pick at the features that the Toyota can't have, then sure, but you might as well complain about it not being able to fly. My personal experience of the FSD function is that it works as its supposed to; it handles the mundane tasks of driving while I look around, and it's easy for me to interject when I feel I need to, which is almost never. That's what I wanted and that's what they delivered. It was not so good earlier, yes including phantom braking, but it's very good now.
- grosswait 5mo ago
  This might be historically accurate, but no longer to represent the present state IMO
mft_ 5mo ago
I had an M3LR during 2021/22 as a company car and during that time they “refreshed” the UI completely which made it objectively worse as a means of interacting with your car (i.e. more taps/levels/menus to get the same simple things done). Aside from that, it was always pretty solid and IMO better than the typical legacy manufacturer offering.

by bdamm 5mo ago

cheema33 5mo ago

As a fellow Tesla Model 3 LR owner, I can confirm that this has been my experience as well. I bought mine in 2008. So nearly 8 years old and still going strong.

natch 5mo ago
You mean in 2018 maybe?
- selcuka 5mo ago
  The year is correct. They omitted to mention that it was a Tesla DeLorean.

Brian_K_White 5mo ago

Tesla takes software very seriously, but for their goals not yours.

bdamm 5mo ago
This is just fearmongering trope. You can imagine whatever you like, but there's no evidence that they're anything other than a car and technology company that wants to sell lots of its product.
- p_j_w 5mo ago
  Their employees were caught viewing and sharing nude photos of their customers on slack.
- senordevnyc 5mo ago
  technology company that wants to sell lots of its product So, like every company out there spying on their customers as much as they can get away with? Cool.
- Brian_K_White 5mo ago
  hoo doggies...

NewsaHackO 5mo ago

Yeah, this is similar to what I hear about Tesla's everywhere. While some members of the company leadership can be polarizing, the product itself seems very solid. Have been saving up for my first "good" car since starting my end-career job, really want to get a Tesla, but wish there was a hybrid option due to charger anxiety. Otherwise, would get one already.

UltraSane 5mo ago
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- u8080 5mo ago
  Yeah, fuck VolksWagen!
  - UltraSane 5mo ago
    It would be like buying a car from VW while actual nazis were still in charge. All evidence supports Musk being very racist. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/04/24/musk-online-posts-race-whiteness/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/04/24/musk-on... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/12/elon-musk-posts-january-white-supremacists https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/12/elon-musk... Elon Musk’s longtime fixation on a white racial majority is intensifying. The richest man in the world posted about how the white race was under threat, made allusions to race science or promoted anti-immigrant conspiracy content on 26 out of 31 days in January, according to the Guardian’s analysis of his social media output. The posts, made on his platform X, reflect a renewed embrace of what extremism experts describe as white supremacist material. “Whites are a rapidly dying minority,” Musk said on 22 January, a short time before taking the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos, while reposting an Irish anti-immigrant influencer’s video about demographic change. Musk’s posts included him repeatedly claiming white people face systemic discrimination, endorsing the conspiracy that there is an ongoing genocide against white people in countries around the world and promoting a claim that white people would be “slaughtered” by non-whites if they become a demographic minority. “If you stripped Elon Musk’s name off of these things and showed them to me, I would think that this was a white supremacist,” said Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Extremism, who reviewed a selection of the posts.

drnick1 5mo ago

> Some brands take software very seriously. This isn't an "entire industry" problem. This does not change the fact that Tesla is shamelessly spying on you. In fact, Tesla takes the software so seriously that it can probably fully remotely control your car. This is not something that I would want, and, if I were to be gifted a Tesla, the first thing that I would do is unplugging the cellular modem. If the car becomes unusable because of this, I would get rid of it.

KennyBlanken 5mo ago
All you need to do is convince your Tesla that it's in a constant state of having just crashed, and the poof, nobody will ever see your data!

KennyBlanken 5mo ago

> Some brands take software very seriously. > Tesla It's really hard to take this claim seriously about a car company that programs its self-driving system to disengage if it detects what it thinks is a likely crash, so said company can then tell investigators, regulators, juries, and the public that "the car wasn't in self-driving mode when it crashed." "I'm not touching her, Mom. THE STICK is touching her!" ...and touts itself as having the most advanced driver assistance and self-driving capabilities, yet has the highest crash rate of any brand? Beating out Mustang and Imprezza WRX STi owners is truly an accomplishment, though. ...and (still?) hasn't fixed its issues with "phantom braking" that have caused multi-car pileups ...and has self-driving software documented as being so bad it will randomly swerve at cyclists, steer at light poles while turning, and swerve at crowds of pedestrians on a street corner waiting for the light? Which after years of refinement drives about as well as a highly distracted teenager who just got their learner's permit? Yeah, taking software "very seriously."

bdamm 5mo ago
We were talking about the fundamental experience of driving the car. If you want to pick at the features that the Toyota can't have, then sure, but you might as well complain about it not being able to fly. My personal experience of the FSD function is that it works as its supposed to; it handles the mundane tasks of driving while I look around, and it's easy for me to interject when I feel I need to, which is almost never. That's what I wanted and that's what they delivered. It was not so good earlier, yes including phantom braking, but it's very good now.
grosswait 5mo ago
This might be historically accurate, but no longer to represent the present state IMO

mft_ 5mo ago

I had an M3LR during 2021/22 as a company car and during that time they “refreshed” the UI completely which made it objectively worse as a means of interacting with your car (i.e. more taps/levels/menus to get the same simple things done). Aside from that, it was always pretty solid and IMO better than the typical legacy manufacturer offering.