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There is a point where you are so weak, and your opponent is strong, that the best outcome for everyone on the whole is for you to just capitulate. Surrender.

There is a point where you are so weak, and your opponent is strong, that the best outcome for everyone on the whole is for you to just capitulate. Surrender. I don't know if there is something I am missing, but to me, the "bad guy" in a situation like this is the one holding onto power at everyone else's (extreme) expense, throwing their own team into the fire to keep their power in place as long as possible.

j_maffe 6mo ago
Great victim blaming
- WarmWash 6mo ago
  The victims are the innocent people being shredded in the middle of it, I don't see where I am blaming them
- akramachamarei 6mo ago
  We should really be thinking of the situation in terms of individuals instead of nations. Whatever capitulation we're talking about, there's no reason to assume that the Cuban governments shares the same opinions as Cubans. The actions and interests of the government and Cubans are separate, and incur separate blameworthiness.
morkalork 6mo ago
Rapist mentality
- WarmWash 6mo ago
  Maybe? Like the dictator will let their people suffer while having the power to stop it? I'm not sure I follow, but suppose it kind of fits
  - morkalork 6mo ago
    >you are so weak, and your opponent is strong, that the best outcome for everyone on the whole is for you to just capitulate. Surrender. Sounds pretty rapey to me. I certainly hope you've never made similar remarks to a date before.
    - WarmWash 6mo ago
      We're talking about different things here then, sorry if it confused you. The situation I am speaking about has three parties: a weak party, an innocent/bystander party under the power of the weak party, and a strong party trying to displace the weak party. This is like a hostage situation, or a child custody battle. Hope that clarifies it
M95D 6mo ago
Surrender, as in "let USA install it's puppet dictator instead? It didn't work that great for the other countries that allowed it (or were unable to stop it).

j_maffe 6mo ago

Great victim blaming

WarmWash 6mo ago
The victims are the innocent people being shredded in the middle of it, I don't see where I am blaming them
akramachamarei 6mo ago
We should really be thinking of the situation in terms of individuals instead of nations. Whatever capitulation we're talking about, there's no reason to assume that the Cuban governments shares the same opinions as Cubans. The actions and interests of the government and Cubans are separate, and incur separate blameworthiness.

morkalork 6mo ago

Rapist mentality

WarmWash 6mo ago
Maybe? Like the dictator will let their people suffer while having the power to stop it? I'm not sure I follow, but suppose it kind of fits
- morkalork 6mo ago
  >you are so weak, and your opponent is strong, that the best outcome for everyone on the whole is for you to just capitulate. Surrender. Sounds pretty rapey to me. I certainly hope you've never made similar remarks to a date before.
  - WarmWash 6mo ago
    We're talking about different things here then, sorry if it confused you. The situation I am speaking about has three parties: a weak party, an innocent/bystander party under the power of the weak party, and a strong party trying to displace the weak party. This is like a hostage situation, or a child custody battle. Hope that clarifies it

M95D 6mo ago

Surrender, as in "let USA install it's puppet dictator instead? It didn't work that great for the other countries that allowed it (or were unable to stop it).