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God why do people frame things in such extremes? Neither person is a psychopath. If anyone is closer to a psychopath it’s Altman, but he doesn’t completely fit
by threethirtytwo 5mo ago
God why do people frame things in such extremes? Neither person is a psychopath. If anyone is closer to a psychopath it’s Altman, but he doesn’t completely fit the monicker.
- skeeter2020 5mo agoWhen you're arguing the degree to which such powerful people fit the definition of psychopath, you're at extremes. You've just been in the warming pot too long to see it.
- threethirtytwo 5mo ago[flagged]
- hgoel 5mo agoSo, now we need a clinical diagnosis to call evil people psychopaths or we're unhinged? Do you apply the same high standards to any of the garbage these guys spew or to the impacts of their projects?
- shimman 5mo agoThe people that have made decisions leading to the direct deaths of millions of people AREN'T evil! There's no clinical definition of evil in the DSM, so they can't be evil you see.
- threethirtytwo 5mo agoYour stupid. They can be evil because it fits the definition. They can’t be psychopaths because it doesn’t fit the definition. Understand?
- mrhottakes 5mo agoHave you asked all the legit clinical psychologists? Or are you just making things up because you're emotional?
- threethirtytwo 5mo agoI have asked several.
- CamperBob2 5mo agoAt least one clinical psychologist might disagree with you there: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/opinions/mary-trump-book-dangerous-donald-dantonio https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/opinions/mary-trump-book-dang...
- tremon 5mo agoHaven't you heard? Psychopath, like Pedophile, is a mere epithet these days, to indicate a person's favoured status with the in-crowd. In contrast to the equally meaningless epithet "woke".
- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago> like Pedophile I really wouldn’t conflate these two. People with documented allegations of child rape are in a separate category from diagnosed-over-the-TV types.
- tombert 5mo agoOutside of Elon Musk's Twitter, I think pedophile is actually used pretty appropriately in most spots.
- danaw 5mo agowho's calling people pedos that don't at least have credible allegations against them of that crime (eg trump)?
- lawn 5mo agoMusk has a history.
- platevoltage 5mo agoExcept Psychopath and Pedophile are actual words that weren't lifted straight off of gen-z slang.
- thinkingtoilet 5mo agoThey are absolutely psychopaths. These are people that will flagrantly lie to your face and feel no remorse. They cause mass suffering and feel no remorse. They don't have empathy. They don't have normal human emotions.
- aerhardt 5mo agoFor all his weirdness and moral failings, I don’t see Altman saying things like whites being under apartheid in the US. And worse. Multiple times a day. Every day.
- shimman 5mo agoOutcomes matter, when both people are leading you to undemocratic societies why should I care about their messaging when both result in worse material lives for 100s of millions of people?
- threethirtytwo 5mo agoPsychopaths wear a mask of sanity but underneath they have no moral framework. Some people can hate black people or Muslims or anything like that but these qualities are very human. Things like racism has existed across cultures for more than several millennia among many people. A psychopath is a different ballgame. A psychopath can plunge a knife into a babies face and feel no emotion. The only reason why the psychopath doesn’t plunge a knife into a babies face is because he has nothing to gain from it. The psychopath appears more sane then a racist because the psychopath is usually better at pretending to be sane simply because he is unable to comprehend the passionate yet racial hatred that the racist feels. What I am saying is musk does not fit that archetype as much. Altman fits that archetype more. Neither actually crosses the threshold to be called a “psychopath” but if psychopathy was a gradient Altman is further down the line then musk. Much further. That is the literal definition of what a psychopath is. You’re operating from a lack of understanding of the definition.
- danaw 5mo agowould you prefer sociopath? they're willing to lie to accumulate massive wealth irrespective of the harm.
- rurp 5mo agoGleefully boasting again and again about ruining tens of thousands of lives is about as clear as it gets for evidence of psychopathy. Along with ~0 instances of empathy.