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and yet somehow that world seemed more healthy than today's

by bramgn 5mo ago

Pay08 5mo ago
It wasn't. Lifespans were almost a decade shorter.
phs318u 5mo ago
“Seemed” is the key word here.
Vasbarlog 5mo ago
If you wear your nostalgia glasses it sure does "seem" more healthy. Life expectancy at birth in the 70s was 70.8. Now it's 79. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/hus/data-finder.htm?&subject=Life%20expectancy https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/hus/data-finder.htm?&subject=Life%2...
- cucumber3732842 5mo ago
  I wonder how much of that was occupational vs lifestyle.
- sceptic123 5mo ago
  Life expectancy is a useful summary statistic but not really a guide to healthy. The main reason for the increase there is a reduction in child mortality, not an increase in overall healthiness. Ironically, one of the main factors improving the adult population statistics is the decrease in smoking. But look at something like HALE (Healthy Life Expectancy from WHO[1]) that's much lower and is currently decreasing. https://data.who.int/indicators/i/48D9B0C/C64284D https://data.who.int/indicators/i/48D9B0C/C64284D
narag 5mo ago
What seems to me is the ads seem less staged and processed than current ones. They're wilder and not as softened as every media are now. As for people pointing at lifespans for the healthy part, how much of the change is systemic use of anticoagulants? And of course less tobacco, but I wouldn't rush to say people are in much better shape now.
JKCalhoun 5mo ago
I get what you're saying. And seeing your detractors here, I can't argue with the data. I wonder though if we didn't trade the low-hanging fruit of lung cancer for the kinds of things that kill us now. I won't argue that we didn't add a decade to our average lifespan, but it does seem our lives have become more sedentary than they were. (Mine certainly has—but then I'm also forty-plus years older, ha ha.) I wonder how 70's man and 70's woman fared who didn't smoke or live with a smoker—if you compared just that group with modern man and woman.
pavel_lishin 5mo ago
I talked to everyone I know who was alive in the 1970s, and they're still alive today. That proves it.

and yet somehow that world seemed more healthy than today's

by bramgn 5mo ago

and yet somehow that world seemed more healthy than today's

Pay08 5mo ago

It wasn't. Lifespans were almost a decade shorter.

phs318u 5mo ago

“Seemed” is the key word here.

Vasbarlog 5mo ago

If you wear your nostalgia glasses it sure does "seem" more healthy. Life expectancy at birth in the 70s was 70.8. Now it's 79. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/hus/data-finder.htm?&subject=Life%20expectancy https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/hus/data-finder.htm?&subject=Life%2...

cucumber3732842 5mo ago
I wonder how much of that was occupational vs lifestyle.
sceptic123 5mo ago
Life expectancy is a useful summary statistic but not really a guide to healthy. The main reason for the increase there is a reduction in child mortality, not an increase in overall healthiness. Ironically, one of the main factors improving the adult population statistics is the decrease in smoking. But look at something like HALE (Healthy Life Expectancy from WHO[1]) that's much lower and is currently decreasing. https://data.who.int/indicators/i/48D9B0C/C64284D https://data.who.int/indicators/i/48D9B0C/C64284D

narag 5mo ago

What seems to me is the ads seem less staged and processed than current ones. They're wilder and not as softened as every media are now. As for people pointing at lifespans for the healthy part, how much of the change is systemic use of anticoagulants? And of course less tobacco, but I wouldn't rush to say people are in much better shape now.

JKCalhoun 5mo ago

I get what you're saying. And seeing your detractors here, I can't argue with the data. I wonder though if we didn't trade the low-hanging fruit of lung cancer for the kinds of things that kill us now. I won't argue that we didn't add a decade to our average lifespan, but it does seem our lives have become more sedentary than they were. (Mine certainly has—but then I'm also forty-plus years older, ha ha.) I wonder how 70's man and 70's woman fared who didn't smoke or live with a smoker—if you compared just that group with modern man and woman.

pavel_lishin 5mo ago

I talked to everyone I know who was alive in the 1970s, and they're still alive today. That proves it.