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mavelikara 5mo ago
Polydactyly can be treated surgically! /s Jokes aside, if in 15 years you have worked with only few good Indian engineers, you probably have not yet worked at places with high talent density. I could understand if you had said you have (a) worked with many low quality engineers from India, or (b) worked with far more low quality engineers from India than high quality ones. But if, in absolute numbers, you haven't come across many good engineers from India, I can only infer than you probably haven't worked with very good engineers across the board.
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Or maybe you just aren't that good of an engineer (or whatever profession you are into) and find the easiest group to blame on your failures. I found that people who often are quick to judge and group of people in one bucket based on their color/ethnicity/gender/... are often not that bright people and like to focus on directing it on others. Somewhat like MAGA.
- Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
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  - tdeck 5mo ago
    > Indians hire only Indians. I've worked for Indian managers several times and they all hired non-Indian people.
    - siren2026 5mo ago
      I think both can be true. I have seen teams that are 100% Indians with a manager actively pushing Indian resumes and friends/family on top. They don’t play nice and by the DEI rules like a lot of Americans do. But I have also seen amazing Indian managers that don’t act like this. It’s ok to acknowledge that culturally Indians will favor themselves heavily. As bad as some of you want to make it sound like racism to close that conversation at all cost.
  - sometimes_all 5mo ago
    Way to paint with a really broad brush...
    - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
      I use my real life experience to form my opinions, yes.
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      - sometimes_all 5mo ago
        I'm sure you do. But your real life experience is not everyone else's real life experience, so there's no really need to make blanket statements about people.
        Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
        Blanket statement - western europe is where people want to live Wrong? Ok good, don't come here then.
        sometimes_all 5mo ago
        Oh wow, you went from one place to some totally different place at the drop of a hat. Where did me "coming" to Western Europe come into the discussion about racial stereotyping about Indians? I'm not in Western Europe, and I don't plan to live there, not sure how you got that impression. I think there's no reasoning with someone who only wants to deal in absolutes. Have a good day.
      - OutOfHere 5mo ago
        There is some bias in some teams, but it's not universal, and such a bias for one's ethnicity really exists in teams of all ethnicities. You just see it more because there are plenty of xxxx in IT.
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- nixass 5mo ago
  > Somewhat like MAGA. Wow this escalated quickly. What OP is saying is not anecdotal but true to every major US tech company. You can cope all you want, won't make a difference
keithxm23 5mo ago
Gotta love the covert racism here.
- jakeydus 5mo ago
  Yes what the fuck is this entire thread
  - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
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    - OutOfHere 5mo ago
      It's a half-truth because it totally ignores that it's not universal and people of other ethnicities do it too to their own.
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- boelboel 5mo ago
  Where's the covert it's open racism
- ponector 5mo ago
  The best thing in such companies like Cisco is discrimination by caste within Indian workers.
i67vw3 5mo ago
The reason is basically that you are "required" to hire other "Indians". If you get a job at a good company on your own merit, you immediately start getting calls to "refer" your college friends, family, people from your region/state. Refer here means refer it to HR and make some "setting" that you are guranteed to be hired based on your "reference". Naturally reference would mean that considering you are an employee you would know about open positions and may refer the position to your friend, who would later on get the job on his own merit considering that he is skilled for the position along with required experience. But the case for Indian employees is that a reference entails to scam the company itself, by letting a less skilled person into the company by making a "setting" with HR etc, who may themselves be from the same region/state. And if you try to be morally upright person to deny such a scammy "reference", you would then get to listen verbal abuses from your friends and even from your own family members. To deny such a reference leads to straight up "banishment". Tip:- Among 100 Indians if you see, only 1 or 2 are actually good at their job (or by morality).
- cumshitpiss 5mo ago
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by shell0x 5mo ago

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Polydactyly can be treated surgically! /s Jokes aside, if in 15 years you have worked with only few good Indian engineers, you probably have not yet worked at places with high talent density. I could understand if you had said you have (a) worked with many low quality engineers from India, or (b) worked with far more low quality engineers from India than high quality ones. But if, in absolute numbers, you haven't come across many good engineers from India, I can only infer than you probably haven't worked with very good engineers across the board.

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Or maybe you just aren't that good of an engineer (or whatever profession you are into) and find the easiest group to blame on your failures. I found that people who often are quick to judge and group of people in one bucket based on their color/ethnicity/gender/... are often not that bright people and like to focus on directing it on others. Somewhat like MAGA.

Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
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- tdeck 5mo ago
  > Indians hire only Indians. I've worked for Indian managers several times and they all hired non-Indian people.
  - siren2026 5mo ago
    I think both can be true. I have seen teams that are 100% Indians with a manager actively pushing Indian resumes and friends/family on top. They don’t play nice and by the DEI rules like a lot of Americans do. But I have also seen amazing Indian managers that don’t act like this. It’s ok to acknowledge that culturally Indians will favor themselves heavily. As bad as some of you want to make it sound like racism to close that conversation at all cost.
- sometimes_all 5mo ago
  Way to paint with a really broad brush...
  - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
    I use my real life experience to form my opinions, yes.
    - truncate 5mo ago
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    - sometimes_all 5mo ago
      I'm sure you do. But your real life experience is not everyone else's real life experience, so there's no really need to make blanket statements about people.
      - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
        Blanket statement - western europe is where people want to live Wrong? Ok good, don't come here then.
        sometimes_all 5mo ago
        Oh wow, you went from one place to some totally different place at the drop of a hat. Where did me "coming" to Western Europe come into the discussion about racial stereotyping about Indians? I'm not in Western Europe, and I don't plan to live there, not sure how you got that impression. I think there's no reasoning with someone who only wants to deal in absolutes. Have a good day.
    - OutOfHere 5mo ago
      There is some bias in some teams, but it's not universal, and such a bias for one's ethnicity really exists in teams of all ethnicities. You just see it more because there are plenty of xxxx in IT.
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nixass 5mo ago
> Somewhat like MAGA. Wow this escalated quickly. What OP is saying is not anecdotal but true to every major US tech company. You can cope all you want, won't make a difference

keithxm23 5mo ago

Gotta love the covert racism here.

jakeydus 5mo ago
Yes what the fuck is this entire thread
- Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
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  - OutOfHere 5mo ago
    It's a half-truth because it totally ignores that it's not universal and people of other ethnicities do it too to their own.
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boelboel 5mo ago
Where's the covert it's open racism
ponector 5mo ago
The best thing in such companies like Cisco is discrimination by caste within Indian workers.

i67vw3 5mo ago

The reason is basically that you are "required" to hire other "Indians". If you get a job at a good company on your own merit, you immediately start getting calls to "refer" your college friends, family, people from your region/state. Refer here means refer it to HR and make some "setting" that you are guranteed to be hired based on your "reference". Naturally reference would mean that considering you are an employee you would know about open positions and may refer the position to your friend, who would later on get the job on his own merit considering that he is skilled for the position along with required experience. But the case for Indian employees is that a reference entails to scam the company itself, by letting a less skilled person into the company by making a "setting" with HR etc, who may themselves be from the same region/state. And if you try to be morally upright person to deny such a scammy "reference", you would then get to listen verbal abuses from your friends and even from your own family members. To deny such a reference leads to straight up "banishment". Tip:- Among 100 Indians if you see, only 1 or 2 are actually good at their job (or by morality).

cumshitpiss 5mo ago
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