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Every other country seems to solve it

by hdgvhicv 6mo ago

ben-johnson 6mo ago
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- throwway120385 6mo ago
  > In Canada, the wait is so long for free specialized procedures that many patients choose euthanasia instead. This claim is so outlandish that I'd like to see some sources for it.
  - ben-johnson 6mo ago
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    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United...
    - nonfamous 6mo ago
      Sources do not support claim.
    - BeetleB 6mo ago
      Where in the link does it say they're opting for euthanasia due to long wait times?
- zardo 6mo ago
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- nick__m 6mo ago
  I live in Québec, Canada and the longest I had to wait was 3 months for a gallbladder ablation. And my wife, who is on her fourtht year of ribociclib to prevent her spinal metastasis (breast cancer) from coming back, have timely periodical CT-PET and IRM scans. MAID is popular not because of lack of care but because Québécois values their autonomy and quality of life above being simply alive for the longest time possible.
  - ben-johnson 6mo ago
    In the US nobody waits three months for a simple gall bladder ablation. What's crazy is you think that's normal. She has 'timely' scans because they are made months in advance.
    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      My dermatologist books nine months in advance. My wife’s neurologist books six months out. Long waits are absolutely a thing in the US. A surgery she needed took 18 months to go through.
    - nick__m 6mo ago
      But it was truly not urgent, I would have been ok with waiting 6 months! And the scans are not scheduled months in advance. We complained that we were only informed of the date and time of the next scan a few days before it... The explanation was that they have a must not be done before and a must be done after dates but the actual scheduling is done just in time so urgent case are prioritized before routine care.
    - ordersofmag 6mo ago
      In the US around 26 million people have no form of health insurance. These same people are unlikely to be able to afford a 'simple' gall bladder ablation out of pocket. Which implies an effectively infinite wait time. What's crazy is that some people think this is normal.
- kelseyfrog 6mo ago
  If I used my imagination as an epistemic authority, I'd often be wrong. Why not gain knowledge through experience? Visit Canada and report back.
- analog31 6mo ago
  Wait times in my region are 12-24 months. My "annual" appointments with generalists occur roughly 18 months apart, and usually involve being seen by a PA or NP.
- jghn 6mo ago
  I'm in the US. I have 4 different appointments that are in 2027 because the relevant specialists book that far out.

Every other country seems to solve it

ben-johnson 6mo ago

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throwway120385 6mo ago
> In Canada, the wait is so long for free specialized procedures that many patients choose euthanasia instead. This claim is so outlandish that I'd like to see some sources for it.
- ben-johnson 6mo ago
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  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United...
  - nonfamous 6mo ago
    Sources do not support claim.
  - BeetleB 6mo ago
    Where in the link does it say they're opting for euthanasia due to long wait times?
zardo 6mo ago
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nick__m 6mo ago
I live in Québec, Canada and the longest I had to wait was 3 months for a gallbladder ablation. And my wife, who is on her fourtht year of ribociclib to prevent her spinal metastasis (breast cancer) from coming back, have timely periodical CT-PET and IRM scans. MAID is popular not because of lack of care but because Québécois values their autonomy and quality of life above being simply alive for the longest time possible.
- ben-johnson 6mo ago
  In the US nobody waits three months for a simple gall bladder ablation. What's crazy is you think that's normal. She has 'timely' scans because they are made months in advance.
  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    My dermatologist books nine months in advance. My wife’s neurologist books six months out. Long waits are absolutely a thing in the US. A surgery she needed took 18 months to go through.
  - nick__m 6mo ago
    But it was truly not urgent, I would have been ok with waiting 6 months! And the scans are not scheduled months in advance. We complained that we were only informed of the date and time of the next scan a few days before it... The explanation was that they have a must not be done before and a must be done after dates but the actual scheduling is done just in time so urgent case are prioritized before routine care.
  - ordersofmag 6mo ago
    In the US around 26 million people have no form of health insurance. These same people are unlikely to be able to afford a 'simple' gall bladder ablation out of pocket. Which implies an effectively infinite wait time. What's crazy is that some people think this is normal.
kelseyfrog 6mo ago
If I used my imagination as an epistemic authority, I'd often be wrong. Why not gain knowledge through experience? Visit Canada and report back.
analog31 6mo ago
Wait times in my region are 12-24 months. My "annual" appointments with generalists occur roughly 18 months apart, and usually involve being seen by a PA or NP.
jghn 6mo ago
I'm in the US. I have 4 different appointments that are in 2027 because the relevant specialists book that far out.