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Worse, we spend more in tax dollars on it than any other country total, and then add on the private spending on top. We do the worst of both worlds. https://co

Worse, we spend more in tax dollars on it than any other country total, and then add on the private spending on top. We do the worst of both worlds. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OECD_health_expenditure_per_capita_by_country.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OECD_health_expendit... (And we’re middling in outcomes!)

tt24 6mo ago
Yeah because we consume way more than other countries
- danaw 6mo ago
  sources please
  - tt24 6mo ago
    Don’t have any. Not concerned with whether you believe me or not
    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      Two hours ago you posted "I don’t believe claims made without evidence", lol. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48135626 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48135626
      - tt24 6mo ago
        How are those two things contradictory
- ceejayoz 6mo ago
  Do we consume more, or are we running the price of everything needlessly higher with a goofy setup? Americans are not inherently three times as sick as Australians.
  - tt24 6mo ago
    Yeah they are. Americans engage in more unhealthy eating, crime, and drug use than Australians. It’s very easy for me to believe that they’re 3 times as sick.
    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      Australia is very close behind the US in obesity and illicit drug use. Side note: I'm an Australian citizen, living in the States. An Australian hospital doesn't need a billing/collections department and the docs don't sit on appeals calls with insurance; when my wife broke her foot visiting, they basically didn't know how to bill her (for surgery and three days in a ward!). My son needed a badly ingrown toenail treated on a separate visit there last year; they just treated it and sent us on our way, no charge, despite his being a tourist.
      - tt24 6mo ago
        I didn’t say obesity, I said unhealthy eating. Those aren’t the same thing. I straight up don’t believe the drug use one, we have way more fentalyl deaths than you and it’s not even close. You didn’t address crime. We have much more of it. More gun ownership and gun usage as well. I’m not quite sure what this anecdote has to do with my comment.
        ceejayoz 6mo ago
        > I didn’t say obesity, I said unhealthy eating. Those aren’t the same thing. Australians eat a substantially similar diet to Americans, and have similar health issues (obesity, heart disease, etc.) as a result. They are deeply related things. > I straight up don’t believe the drug use one, we have way more fentalyl deaths than you and it’s not even close. Gee, I wonder if not having healthcare (including access to things like therapy and rehab) might drive up drug death rates. > You didn’t address crime. Sure; you didn't address how it's responsible for 3x the healthcare costs.
        6mo ago

tt24 6mo ago

Yeah because we consume way more than other countries

danaw 6mo ago
sources please
- tt24 6mo ago
  Don’t have any. Not concerned with whether you believe me or not
  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    Two hours ago you posted "I don’t believe claims made without evidence", lol. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48135626 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48135626
    - tt24 6mo ago
      How are those two things contradictory
ceejayoz 6mo ago
Do we consume more, or are we running the price of everything needlessly higher with a goofy setup? Americans are not inherently three times as sick as Australians.
- tt24 6mo ago
  Yeah they are. Americans engage in more unhealthy eating, crime, and drug use than Australians. It’s very easy for me to believe that they’re 3 times as sick.
  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    Australia is very close behind the US in obesity and illicit drug use. Side note: I'm an Australian citizen, living in the States. An Australian hospital doesn't need a billing/collections department and the docs don't sit on appeals calls with insurance; when my wife broke her foot visiting, they basically didn't know how to bill her (for surgery and three days in a ward!). My son needed a badly ingrown toenail treated on a separate visit there last year; they just treated it and sent us on our way, no charge, despite his being a tourist.
    - tt24 6mo ago
      I didn’t say obesity, I said unhealthy eating. Those aren’t the same thing. I straight up don’t believe the drug use one, we have way more fentalyl deaths than you and it’s not even close. You didn’t address crime. We have much more of it. More gun ownership and gun usage as well. I’m not quite sure what this anecdote has to do with my comment.
      - ceejayoz 6mo ago
        > I didn’t say obesity, I said unhealthy eating. Those aren’t the same thing. Australians eat a substantially similar diet to Americans, and have similar health issues (obesity, heart disease, etc.) as a result. They are deeply related things. > I straight up don’t believe the drug use one, we have way more fentalyl deaths than you and it’s not even close. Gee, I wonder if not having healthcare (including access to things like therapy and rehab) might drive up drug death rates. > You didn’t address crime. Sure; you didn't address how it's responsible for 3x the healthcare costs.
        6mo ago