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What's a libertarians take on how health care should work? Completely privatized, completely socialized, somewhere in between?

by ervine 5mo ago

datsci_est_2015 5mo ago
“I’ll put out this fire for you if you pay me $5000”
- hydrogen7800 5mo ago
  This is one of those things that, if it weren't already a public service, could never be implemented as one today. Add to that list public schools and public libraries.
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jmspamerton 5mo ago
The fact that the hospital doesn't know what a procedure costs (they make it up based on deals with medicare, medicaid, and individual insurance companies) should give you a hint. Yes, the patient needs skin in the game. People need to take care of their own health. Most procedures are given to grossly unhealthy people. Yes, completely privatize it. Make people pay for their care so their daily decisions are weighed against what affect it will have on their overall health.
- ceejayoz 5mo ago
  > Most procedures are given to grossly unhealthy people. Well, yeah. That's the idea behind "medically necessary". We don't do elective heart transplants on healthy people for funsies.
  - jmspamerton 5mo ago
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- vjvjvjvjghv 5mo ago
  “ The fact that the hospital doesn't know what a procedure costs (they make it up based on deals with medicare, medicaid, and individual insurance companies) should give you a hint.” The hint here is that the random pricing needs to stop. Same procedure for the same price. No market can work if participants don’t know the actual price. Insurance and hospitals probably have a very good idea but patients are being kept totally in the dark. You are expected to just accept what this opaque machinery comes up with.
- Sohcahtoa82 5mo ago
  So what if someone gets cancer or some other potentially fatal disease despite eating healthy, exercising, not smoking, etc, and they can't afford to pay for treatment? They just get to die, or what?
outside1234 5mo ago
"I don't want to be forced to pay for insurance, but will move to a state with subsidized insurance the second I need it."

What's a libertarians take on how health care should work? Completely privatized, completely socialized, somewhere in between?

by ervine 5mo ago

What's a libertarians take on how health care should work? Completely privatized, completely socialized, somewhere in between?

datsci_est_2015 5mo ago

“I’ll put out this fire for you if you pay me $5000”

hydrogen7800 5mo ago
This is one of those things that, if it weren't already a public service, could never be implemented as one today. Add to that list public schools and public libraries.

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jmspamerton 5mo ago

The fact that the hospital doesn't know what a procedure costs (they make it up based on deals with medicare, medicaid, and individual insurance companies) should give you a hint. Yes, the patient needs skin in the game. People need to take care of their own health. Most procedures are given to grossly unhealthy people. Yes, completely privatize it. Make people pay for their care so their daily decisions are weighed against what affect it will have on their overall health.

ceejayoz 5mo ago
> Most procedures are given to grossly unhealthy people. Well, yeah. That's the idea behind "medically necessary". We don't do elective heart transplants on healthy people for funsies.
- jmspamerton 5mo ago
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vjvjvjvjghv 5mo ago
“ The fact that the hospital doesn't know what a procedure costs (they make it up based on deals with medicare, medicaid, and individual insurance companies) should give you a hint.” The hint here is that the random pricing needs to stop. Same procedure for the same price. No market can work if participants don’t know the actual price. Insurance and hospitals probably have a very good idea but patients are being kept totally in the dark. You are expected to just accept what this opaque machinery comes up with.
Sohcahtoa82 5mo ago
So what if someone gets cancer or some other potentially fatal disease despite eating healthy, exercising, not smoking, etc, and they can't afford to pay for treatment? They just get to die, or what?

outside1234 5mo ago

"I don't want to be forced to pay for insurance, but will move to a state with subsidized insurance the second I need it."